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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics." D2 @% c$ g: T. g" e; P* j

% f/ i" F. D8 P1 G' {5 L9 xTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 2 X$ m, I% t$ [. X) C5 r: L
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 8 K, V, C0 }. P5 }$ E' r" Z0 w

) n- z: m& x6 G. cNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.* a/ w0 b7 l9 a8 C

$ G+ ^5 f& u/ T& o" g+ l" sTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.3 Y/ P6 b+ m( `5 e4 K& h
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. $ q/ q0 u7 M' e' V3 i

- z0 v5 g/ \4 ~; U7 XTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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& m/ R2 w1 k# f; S% a) ^Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. % y. w. j/ {2 p7 w  \

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。( F+ z5 F( u  Z: C! }6 t; _/ `
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。$ J  L8 n' g1 ~; i$ j

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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 0 d+ U1 _+ D! R
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了- j+ e" }7 i9 e$ ~( Z' k
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
  k- {3 J2 j  _# \0 pWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
( I: j0 ~5 X4 j' l, G6 Jboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton+ v) S) A. ]3 V* {8 g: W
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
* \  _& `, d. p: L9 \2 a% V9 w. a) x2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
2 Z8 w) ?- z% x- w2 v- k) aformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
1 l/ w. P- a! ofrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,  t% g6 ]( F$ X1 q
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
; i; v' H! r. i0 h* K' o5 C3 tmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
. g' y0 B& |. d  `( |+ e% K! x2 apace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
3 n& y! q$ O% Z/ P* {" T9 b# kprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
# w: W' n* U( O; x. h, L9 p, L; y" \1 yto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
) ?- ^! w7 s- n4 }$ Rprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
( b* Q$ s4 ?; X. j( m* g5 {8 myear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
" Y5 o9 H4 I) _/ Rhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
( ]0 H& R2 p* j& g2 ~8 @# I30,000 new households will form in the province during
5 V- {6 D& v/ y- L% d, `5 S2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
" l5 L' i, c) F% m$ j" KEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
( z% I6 b" O' D  k% c, ]) Ghomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
$ Y# G+ w, R4 ]during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta1 s) B' V2 s3 ?
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
: p8 E/ m, W# g) V3 m7 J9 m* xhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals* _" c7 c# ]& Q6 y4 `3 ^: U# o
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging; p6 O/ u! K) H; u/ T# {  l, i
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
# W9 G7 w% h$ J: }  Wclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
% f, k4 Q7 {, S/ U) B; ~excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of8 C. l0 |4 S: V6 g
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a: [* B& j  p  \9 O: a
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive, e& q# z! a0 b2 ]% O
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in- x: m* L' }/ `/ f
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in( o/ m3 E( p6 d2 o3 R
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747- N( U! a' x# o; j1 a
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
% ?1 D) }4 x) crecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the7 d& j, z( b3 m# v4 w. @
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s: [( z( X  U  R8 O* W
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
/ k. ~/ j- `# V0 [' t! GThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
! n% s5 f1 P! K0 r& sboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
! g% a! h1 `" oAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan6 R$ f% k# x: ~6 Z  W4 o
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced1 B8 H  }, r0 T7 @1 |2 l' I
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
9 h; F8 T4 K9 f& J1 t  D+ pprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
/ y5 I$ O% I. X6 U# ~% Pthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners& v$ m) D2 j- A' r& v
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
5 k! f. \8 y* ~' R- r6 aThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average' M5 _4 d# w+ e6 Y5 i! x0 e
resale price in February is evidence that past prices3 z8 _( Q2 C6 ?" a0 Y) y6 g
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
/ b/ j" e+ S/ b' W, JAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
& \5 u, s! Z3 ?6 }leg down over 2009.! i6 W  v9 A8 {1 m
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 7 ^) ^) v/ t' a, _6 s2 y" f4 _: o
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子/ A0 e) Z( Y& q& _" F- i
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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: R! l( l) g! `[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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