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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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5 j& C  H9 r9 j# j. I& u! M1 O& z& CTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ( F; o' B) S; O. k* k9 o
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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, o' B9 n; F4 C8 `% ]Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.& Z' D4 U( {, z9 ?$ \( S

" _5 j( h; ?7 ?( B' |" KTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.4 I) g  s. c' m/ \

; E4 L/ a, z6 l4 C! Y) X"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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/ I) w3 t# [/ \  Y0 eTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.  Y! g4 C% P2 t/ `  v4 M# A
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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( t3 S: U2 d- Z8 f1 V0 ?2 DTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,+ H2 D. D* s) F3 k9 _5 k

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
1 \" P  a' P) S- g7 h 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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8 Y9 h, X) w* m) X/ d' p3 W[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表   ]$ ?  L5 @( e( f0 k
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

: S, z* Q4 F7 U& p很多人都回学校深造去了/ E0 {* x* p! J
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta- h# T! V% D- [
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to, _2 L8 w& ?  v' y2 |9 E0 g( G
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household7 j7 s& x6 o7 U+ E% z( @% P" ]
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided$ B: Q/ v. B- R3 J1 Q" O
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,% z& M. i; j! f* e9 o
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and2 h8 H6 P* Y( g) D4 F* a, P
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
7 ?/ D7 L  S( e0 r* W- Upace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed9 m6 W3 L# c' l/ J+ Q2 N
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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9 \9 j5 q, f9 c. Cprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this9 ]$ z/ M  j. g* S5 W2 l
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,& y5 j8 D# P2 i& y2 {4 r: F
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around, j7 T; |% X- X8 c# V
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
, s6 f; z1 u" D$ `8 `homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%9 _/ m* A1 V; x4 f' a! J/ T$ X- y) p
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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& k% ~: G0 g$ M% D0 Zsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories8 F  d3 d6 B1 ~' |( A- `
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is" A& {$ ^; J1 w! Z  w
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of: C5 z' @1 `0 d0 r
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a) o2 U7 ^; C. G3 G. P3 B) z/ l2 j# \
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in  y  a; @! h2 B4 k
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
, e: P; a5 [* Z1 Q0 Oresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s' I% l8 |* Y& `: F( |
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories" r2 c. H# g* W& s. z" H# R: c
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled. `- k. G$ Z# k; m0 i& P& [  O
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated." s; R5 A' V. `- T+ t
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s5 a4 S/ F5 ~7 h) j& B1 ]6 H) [0 k
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.: R9 l3 A5 y- |
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even7 }" S: v- l/ y8 E8 P" T5 g. `3 b! g
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners% S" o& _3 p  D" |3 x1 J2 `
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
: ~5 Q: a9 t# ]9 F- @7 [4 `The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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leg down over 2009.% ^% }  @" H$ q7 D8 Y0 e2 p  C+ ~
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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5 h" h' v9 [; _! z& y6 U% i[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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2 c8 A/ {% q( P* a6 Ghttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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