說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
+ t) e% d6 `9 L) ]6 T0 \" i学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
& T0 S/ K$ b/ y' i; F楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
5 D. k/ i' h+ e i1 A1 E# {楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 - }9 T5 M4 X' D
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 % O# ~) y$ J5 i U9 H1 U
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7 \' Y) D: U3 y) Z! ?/ z9 s不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE6 z* s. V. y: ]; v' U. K4 J0 f" B	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE/ a* L0 Z U5 j; r! Q+ L& @- B; I
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport ! W1 s5 P( S3 m0 r, g9 V: B' {, R	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 8 N8 `3 j6 t& v8 K
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE8 C* c/ q' j1 b1 A* Z	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX + ~4 k% e$ R6 [. a! X
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 C( O6 \- W) Q, l! G: ?- t0 i/ H	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5" f- r# y* R- N$ z, G" B4 T) h* _8 ]/ N
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE & l; w. C& f1 q' t% U	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE & E) ^1 M$ I8 y h
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE - k3 j* I; q% z! x	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 1 Q: p3 }3 }. D. H4 O" c% d0 Z
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 3 F& m S' _* ]& n	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 7 L: s4 M( J; u9 d, z: W" R
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited- Q8 e' [/ B) ~6 }8 m	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 9 D( C! m7 q3 V b, [" O
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE 9 U; P- q$ c0 ^6 l! o1 R	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE % z4 o9 H9 ~" m, a+ D5 h& }3 j4 d8 V
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE" d8 x( w6 i" m& E! S" E: T	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ' C& V; ^/ ~4 T) q
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE ' o! Z' @3 A J	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST9 s( K2 Z# r1 ^/ i7 T2 D+ ~
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited $ E) H3 H) ?. B2 M: F	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited6 J: X) y g9 ?$ V& ^8 `
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& M2 C0 U0 q; L) ]2 U	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX; t8 u0 G! E, r
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 7 q: u# F K7 I( n+ m! M	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 0 J8 x: T& V8 J
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE7 L6 h! ?( K' _2 z1 W; m	• 1996 Toyota Tercel : z+ U o( \2 D( Y5 n
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5. A) P/ L! P! @* j. R0 A	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX% B1 m* j7 m' O$ y' Y- ~. f9 p
• 2006 Toyota Tundra . ^6 p% A2 @7 e2 K7 R4 B	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT- ]; E+ \|" Z k8 q
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS `5 k N" d( m* t& o5 U	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 6 f- C+ p2 b2 f# a( a3 D/ `- C
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL - W; O# L( B6 e1 t& K# L8 I$ h2 p. n	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner / O6 N; \' w/ Q& A4 c% L" N
• 2006 Toyota Prius , Z ?6 d) \& i8 u) {	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX5 a- c3 u/ g' N) C
• 2006 Toyota Camry ) h. K5 h; f; d9 \|	• 1995 Toyota Pickup + j/ @) @: ?% q" x H
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 9 h6 J0 P/ R6 C' o$ Q& l1 U) I	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE + \7 U, }3 x* T! l
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 7 I$ `4 I8 p1 F& }4 G4 Z	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE9 M8 A7 N. y" v3 ?' V
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE5 w& V, P* `3 Q* g& @5 e	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 4 r" J0 q* o* S- [0 a
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited / Z+ ^8 I8 J/ s- f1 F	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5! D( J5 M. k( i9 l! ~, b% J9 E9 H
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 9 O$ \|- a, \|1 x4 n- i0 a% I	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 0 u4 G: e5 \|' b0 R0 G/ J
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ G/ j7 g4 A0 z8 z- _& N) ^6 T	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX / @' M' G8 G, A0 w
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S! S% d3 z" m% _	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 4 e( g) h- d& u/ }$ X, q' `! k
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 `3 ~( P3 B2 F	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 _+ `% ]0 e& T
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE* s% r6 p/ }% }4 Y3 C( t	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 1 i$ X. J8 W$ u3 {
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS$ p8 A# E2 g( Y% I/ t. M	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ! s( {# K- ], t
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner2 O8 V1 v/ C& N: g d' o	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX/ \( D" k3 \! F( ~. t0 n
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 8 [7 m2 l/ G; c) Z0 @9 O+ K	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE' a# V2 y( S3 `' H
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS* Y; a/ b2 P$ \# u	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX , b: Z0 N$ q' s5 [: F, {
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5: s6 V" }8 h" X0 W; ?6 J, n	• 1995 Toyota T-100 6 v% ?8 t+ N$ Y0 O/ G- \|0 o! B
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited" L# b! w7 D0 f0 C7 D* S6 o' @$ q5 @	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 9 F* r/ w3 A$ t$ i* x# U) Y' p& Y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL. x& x, ]* F2 S: g3 s5 [* O	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE2 ]3 S6 J: _) C, }5 E
• 2005 Toyota Camry 0 f5 A2 m4 n+ d# K	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 # i; j) o9 {! o3 `/ t6 ^ J
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring! ], w- d+ ], R. G. {3 i8 s	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX ! y+ S" _, s4 R9 s
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE& \( u& C9 ?$ n- X2 \! `' a	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX. U( G( D& O' [
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE/ L) C% A7 ?1 ]2 P0 S	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX ' E& q+ r; P, \- d: t" U2 K, z
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited, C2 v, H/ K& r. k3 ?7 C( x& B	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR52 _6 M }7 z1 u& Z9 t+ q5 ^/ C
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Z S$ N, M$ }0 g# p7 j	• 1994 Toyota Pickup + X& u: L* r! S8 z0 c
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S ' b2 ] O( b, V# l6 D, Z/ A+ F3 V1 g	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE6 Z7 J& Y" t, G) c: A3 o( m& r& L
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE - n3 L- {, ?( n! @3 Y" A9 O	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE8 K8 U# i0 N. S6 v- H
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited# C! @9 j' e8 e* _/ C	• 1994 Toyota T-100 / l4 c# }% R9 [1 I
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 2 P$ y. C6 g* w& x/ w2 G4 c	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5" E1 ^, k+ k6 w- Y5 a
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE " f3 u% s; \|& ]. c0 p Z	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE( I' e- V5 Q, t9 @9 \|
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 $ Y+ k# w$ S; b( S+ R% s# b2 C	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX - ]) u2 h# W) M0 o$ N6 K/ a
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 4 m0 X7 C# q5 q" H	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR53 {/ \|1 Z/ {, c3 w$ g
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 9 l, U! X- X; O' A* B3 I# g	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE* u2 y6 w- G8 A5 z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE: T2 I! M6 O9 f+ k6 ^6 L	• 1994 Toyota Corolla & h5 P; Y, `& O& \, ~- M! {
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited$ q$ g) s0 R9 T, Y1 Z	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 9 P' q6 l' V: f: R0 q' q
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 6 a- v0 i" P9 V+ g. \$ j. Q	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE ' `2 \9 B1 i7 O3 o
• 2005 Toyota Prius ! k! J% k: a& W6 F/ _: y. o	• 1993 Toyota Corolla w. f: \5 \+ D) `
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE1 e0 V4 S0 @. z1 \2 r: {$ [$ {	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton ; X' y! I2 Q% P8 J7 L# b7 K; U
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE ' V+ c6 n8 i' C2 M7 A4 t+ u$ ~	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5) f0 e/ [; @' z2 L# Y, ? r; b
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 4 P0 u! T* G& N, Z. Q	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 @% C9 h6 Y1 u7 [. u
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * K- @. Q$ \' K9 k# {	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX ! H8 l2 {* H/ C3 t- h6 D
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ' q) P- p. Y G% k	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 6 r, r: d, B/ T$ n( J" h# A
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE$ k$ I3 h2 O T3 T% q5 d	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser * r, A& c+ u+ g' K+ X* a$ w
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100 : ~. X* t" Q0 W& V: K/ S8 _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE / z) L& Z) f* \|	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE- I R" G# C6 z- _ B
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited + [' J; A! K% ?, J5 t	• 1993 Toyota Pickup ! O; Z) s& V* K% d* T+ }
• 2004 Toyota Prius 4 t8 V, h6 a7 D5 b	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE" S7 q$ C2 m% n8 h+ q
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma - s- _! z0 G+ H1 Q0 e+ Z	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE $ S2 ?3 o' X, u& t/ C
• 2004 Toyota Tundra + k {# d3 D# V& E0 U	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5+ a3 [, c- q7 c- m/ {3 E) z
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE- H8 F1 Y4 O( u/ O4 H9 S0 h	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 # E$ W1 z) [" l4 C
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited ; x) {: @0 t4 h	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 2 t7 F1 H& b: H) h$ r m8 ?& A$ y
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited8 ]) j% z# `% k2 S. J	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE. F/ t. c' Z" N4 A
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE & j/ p6 i4 Z0 v1 d. h# D- D	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 9 A! t% f3 K7 F0 W4 u" N8 }
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE7 d, J# {) o9 u" @2 {	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE / o5 \+ X& i1 P( C4 M7 Y
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 7 M2 g. ~9 f: a! o. S! O8 n, F& p	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac , P. R; {( t2 ]; K
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ' B! y; k1 V) g, A5 y- y4 Y2 u	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton0 D( Q6 V2 r# w! j! R, G" l0 p
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 5 q% I; E3 n5 Z, N `	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 0 L `+ u3 X3 a2 X3 t9 `- p2 f8 F
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner * K! _+ R( @/ c' p8 P/ n/ m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 9 i! J; s3 v2 b. \|7 u
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 2 l0 `8 E1 h3 F$ T' \# e	• 1992 Toyota MR2 $ \# A x' {6 X1 `8 Q L- c" G$ F
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 F$ b3 U/ u0 y3 U	• 1992 Toyota Pickup ' _' H2 r8 m7 E# F
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 ! {3 u& q+ k( J @	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX# S# M# ]! t2 P6 d- N: c3 ~
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS& \5 A8 v7 e- [! M	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac3 }, w) u/ O9 {
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 1 \, J7 ` b) \# r1 N' N1 r, I	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ W. M! d% i" X2 y
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S6 u c2 C% g0 h" J1 Y	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX6 a2 x( @" t h+ }8 e
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited2 R5 L# q% N/ Y( S2 I3 o	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) W6 @$ H! z! I' s/ A
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 `1 P: Z2 l2 n9 m0 G; y9 C5 j	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser * w. q. R; Q1 {( C& w
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5% s2 c& ~+ d4 K! T8 \|	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof. E; x/ q. k& V4 j- p
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4 Z- q) v6 T3 N6 M- ~	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE: U0 i, D& ~* \& D, Q
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE& J/ ~8 B; c. j	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + P0 N: ?, g5 {- ?- H$ `. U
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT% y: b" F) u' u	• 1991 Toyota Camry 7 L6 F4 r5 R0 A& C: I2 J; e9 Y4 s
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE' ?3 A: t. O4 g1 e; x	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 `. I5 J% y6 d8 g# x
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ! H& v8 D1 `0 r2 \$ ^	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ' [: h# s7 W- x( }" a8 T
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ' L: o# h7 q1 F) Q, z	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 8 e; }' R% R; l. X
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 6 s! S9 {1 Y0 m1 n	• 1991 Toyota MR2 6 v4 t7 h5 g/ r, A
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE0 B. j: D: d. @2 S' b	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 * u& b; ?; w* e' T" d
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited1 ^, t7 ~7 e9 ?0 M. ]! {5 g	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX) J! a( F8 q- @; U0 v7 G; H" P
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE3 m# r/ ]$ ]1 ?$ l, k4 ?; X	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # q4 l+ m- v6 R/ w+ q
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR55 L6 R9 ]" i2 J( A! W7 p	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac , j1 }/ c8 v" T$ \|2 n/ U/ h
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE + s9 {- t& ?2 A1 L	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof3 O* N- x# s7 ^* d) M& a8 I
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE0 I4 H" a7 }2 J) W( R% R/ ^! V	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX ' ?$ s- C7 w- u8 \|4 g8 j
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited& \|) x6 g% c: W1 E	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE7 t1 {4 ^, ^8 \|; \|3 N. q$ H
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited$ O: _2 h, P( V( l4 ?! D	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 6 _6 \|2 g2 n# v# H: x. }7 p8 R
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited2 A# [0 T' w \8 q* ^8 n	• 1990 Toyota Pickup * W) {1 a9 {% X: t
• 2002 Toyota ECHO / G a' U* f$ r$ m3 N/ C8 \	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE 3 g3 X$ k6 X. Z1 U6 _; ~
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE ) O) y) r7 s) L2 \( y3 H	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5( K+ p s; h, t+ ]
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited % g; t. Z3 c1 G	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ $ Z O& w% D9 n( G, K. H3 w
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE0 h, ^9 [/ L+ E7 c2 N8 X	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT7 }$ l! l4 D3 ` O" P# ~* A! H4 }
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT - x7 M4 Q, i" e) _; q; [	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base ! L4 N3 a% o' v0 G# `
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner $ R9 Y/ H6 O6 @- z	• 1990 Toyota Camry 2 m9 ?: s1 x9 }/ \ A n ~
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S * H2 j8 W8 t% y7 I, z4 c	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST0 Q2 E# N8 c% v( ^% M9 }: E5 [
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 6 l% Z9 \; ^; C5 ~ ]/ t; F	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX 1 ?. r3 W) C+ U3 R5 t) a& h
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" h* m& ?$ {- v6 T Z; k* p+ \|3 t	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX1 ?6 A9 n- c" w: [- c# [
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 8 [; l2 r+ U5 m' \7 w6 c6 N6 ^( U	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5# I! y' l+ M/ o
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5& K$ }) K" ?& V; G6 O `6 s	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS5 _; G2 G3 ^4 q& e
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE $ R" W5 L* I: T* F3 R	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 p1 A& Z3 [" G( V; `3 g
• 2002 Toyota Prius - F i# d8 m3 G+ u0 h* ? H5 `	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 8 a: p6 ?- P& T" l* B; j& c. }
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5+ b9 j% k0 b% M: \3 O! }( l	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX8 R& K! A( n0 K( p5 Y
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS) D x: `9 h) S	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac# A( k/ w5 ~9 l6 ^% F9 F
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE ( q1 G2 K' j( X; G/ ` G) ]% j: d	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac' S, `0 i% V$ G
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 9 ^+ x% p& U9 \! y o# c	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 5 _/ Z4 C; \& M4 p+ T, ]3 ~5 I, b& K
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ( N6 S. B& c& A0 O) Y& P% u5 ~- w	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 ^3 \8 l6 W0 N+ A- s
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE+ T C% @* e# J, e I	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac8 C6 O( q" O& ~" d6 s$ n
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE! V! l2 T: v; `( Z	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger" j' V# E2 n) y4 u
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 9 l1 \ J8 B& Z$ A" [	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base0 N2 C! p# K+ g% V
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited : [0 `; m, W. P" k F3 L	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac; F* @& Z; \|) h/ O
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT* E+ E: A) h, O1 ~. D	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser # ] P) ]/ Y+ k& ]
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE# R3 `+ o$ i) d! ^( Y& C8 _7 H- O	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE6 f0 H1 ?' p+ p. p+ X
• 2001 Toyota Prius + r* c- B; y0 ?	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX& \0 p8 ^4 a3 b8 I5 q
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 7 l) x. o& j r6 V	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton+ z/ A" X/ x7 T& V$ [5 a
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 4 z! C2 z" a$ v! N$ a. M( Y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 9 }, d7 d5 D$ w6 p) I& \|0 J4 g
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE ( J4 `9 p: L( i8 @	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX $ D, T( p. L) q$ Q, r
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited 4 ^# m' \|' d9 Z$ D" T* [% {	• 1989 Toyota Camry ) }# ]9 Z5 _% ]8 B# @
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR57 Y* d ]: b# ?8 T; ^# C	• 1989 Toyota Tercel , G/ x# C, ^- o2 p2 ~6 \|
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE- [* G1 q) A( [% i7 P6 u7 e	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 8 g9 @4 l% C* l8 F1 x) f
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE: h2 x3 A# z8 {& x$ p/ y! q$ R	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 3 a# s% j2 u W
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 3 h$ A* [* H7 h6 ?; [" W: B	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR53 ?0 U8 p* _* [0 `1 o) x
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 \- L4 @8 n5 \|5 C, i	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger, p0 T% Z j" X$ `8 }" ]
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE: I9 p% x' T$ `3 r A/ J+ R/ [; B	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ / `& r6 N9 }* \
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR55 }$ M( q+ m. W2 H" X	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel8 c$ L3 ^: \$ f3 t& p
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 6 S$ r8 I" t8 \|! X	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX- k' m' ~8 n. `9 s$ k7 V& O/ y7 E4 Q
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS+ o8 d4 z, \|: u; S8 o4 B* G3 K% Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 8 z/ N) ^* d1 ^4 h
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S2 D: \- i/ C+ s9 i1 z1 o3 X	• 1988 Toyota Camry 8 g8 \|" P2 T$ W3 ~
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + Z" s' m7 n/ }" G	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 4 {) \|' L2 _ T
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 3 Y7 q& x# n( Y. G- V9 r4 A, P+ L	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 2 x! L1 W0 F3 W9 r4 C/ E! G' w
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE S1 m2 E: e( ]: [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX $ ]7 O+ i0 J0 `! I1 ~
• 2001 Toyota Highlander ' \|7 s& K S1 _# R	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 p( ]2 ?' j9 m% ]7 F
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited6 _8 y+ V4 F% @. w: W# ~& I	• 1988 Toyota Van DX' V. ~5 }7 ^1 x5 k" `
• 2000 Toyota ECHO : i% s6 D7 y/ ?6 q	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger. k, Z1 A! p( A: w# _" h* I @. z/ N& x
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma : w: m& G4 W6 D# [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel . Q1 o6 W- x' O8 n* C
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT ) h* F% m/ w. @5 s9 I M7 U( a	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE T1 e+ Y" @ f' z
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 2 r8 S/ e$ H) Q- d1 [	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window5 S ~3 t4 }( ~
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 * }, o1 x4 ]; ]3 b4 y8 B	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton : g- F1 \| L5 D5 C2 X' Q+ `7 X3 [
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& D* o- A0 L M	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 f4 P9 j$ n' n; U/ r% M2 r
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR56 H) g# \# ]7 J2 V4 i7 A) D	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 ' T8 C: T8 F- u; E1 a
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited! A7 F* \: m0 s ^" h	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger. p6 j8 G) x# B5 a# U
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE2 ?1 j" F% z2 L1 `( I. A& f	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B " k# x" B) P$ o+ N
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 g6 [& f6 @" K, n) k3 o* ]" G	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac' S! s+ `6 _1 b+ ?* w5 R! ]
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE % N7 N G1 L0 I( u7 X	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 8 N9 q1 }* u+ O# i5 f, O
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 0 P' o8 Q: C3 e2 m- b- \, L	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 7 u* V! U" g6 D4 X5 A- m4 x
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited & }: U0 E' g; m3 x	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 4 C# N! v; K* ^7 J/ g/ I
• 2000 Toyota Tundra - @0 b& J @# q9 O	• 1988 Toyota Van LE , N3 \7 t1 B' L6 Y6 {
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS . d0 L# l* ?' ?	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ; E4 V0 B8 T5 e# @# \|, Y3 u
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE/ t3 R) K5 y9 H! L% R	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 1 k+ W& p* k/ f% w0 Q9 N$ i
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited4 E& p9 i5 e& r4 t& x6 `; O1 K& L	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE , V$ N- n/ e5 l( T9 R9 ?+ f
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner % \| [% \1 s) \; P6 [! n1 u	• 1987 Toyota Van DX & P z6 Q) x0 \. `3 ?
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE * _: m0 g0 a% m0 l' C	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window2 i; i7 ~* q2 r
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR52 S9 c6 U6 \|% a# x$ r9 V, C6 k: m	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 9 D3 F) \3 K1 [# Q# E0 S: O
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE ( c y/ J- }: v	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 2 K4 p2 e0 X. `" t+ b! a/ N/ N
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner " I) F* ~* w# _ x	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 6 `9 E- S/ r" V9 Z# N0 S! G' Z
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE ( U4 N+ A) h J% h: L! ~6 N' t	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX % G" \9 q" b; g* q1 {
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5% g& ?5 ~5 ^' X	• 1987 Toyota Van LE 3 Y& t9 J7 C/ j$ \|6 ?
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE , Z! a7 P- [; [0 R5 s/ e	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel m: F) j* u% e; ~
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE $ b" T$ W z4 ^3 p, A	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX+ T8 J7 p4 Z1 {9 ~8 O5 D
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 1 ?& `$ y% R* V$ j/ R' ]	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ; I2 a% t/ P" J' P' M: B4 \9 P' q
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS y& h- D, F h, a: y7 Z	• 1986 Toyota Van LE# q2 \+ r+ t1 w5 T2 s* r, B
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE ; `- O+ {4 u" Y3 f, N+ a8 o	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser # E; l! b7 a9 t4 H: L. s4 t
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . Y- U! H7 j" K8 W [	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel : H3 D+ D4 ^4 D1 C5 P6 f
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 ) t9 O2 f; G; M( ^; z	• 1986 Toyota Van DX # \|$ W, a4 A9 S4 @5 v- G
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited6 C# O0 u6 H- M5 h0 I	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window; {" e+ J# Z! ?2 N; s
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE* Q& k/ h0 }/ J4 ~	• 1985 Toyota Van * T! ^$ l o% s2 g0 _4 ~
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE * \( D Z. H. ~1 {' C, V	• 1985 Toyota Van LE7 D) z. ~' S% Q5 Q( v
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL , {2 ?9 Z( d& E3 E( m	• 1985 Toyota Van DX # J( O7 m4 v5 @) y1 W$ o
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE $ ?. M9 t; N8 r; T0 E$ c) N4 w	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 W( A( P# e2 g4 h: @) q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited ( z4 \0 k$ y2 G! \|' n/ `, S1 w	• 1984 Toyota Van DX , Z1 w0 o6 Z% q2 e
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE9 k/ j* `, Y2 [! H$ m	• 1984 Toyota Supra ; k1 y1 h' o; l x4 C& e* h+ e0 _
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE5 }. D) P) F! h+ G	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX 6 R! L U4 X$ R4 d
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE ) {. m: X: q. }( T	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser % i$ e1 t/ z" f6 J: u4 Q. y
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited. E0 X$ T$ K r1 W6 A	• 1984 Toyota Cressida % X9 G8 [" ^8 m) H3 o$ {
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS ) D2 x# N7 Q5 S; P2 \|	• 1984 Toyota Van - n7 C/ ]( I0 Y- \$ \0 U* f
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 0 e: b" ]% C+ P. E	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE1 m4 a5 W- ~# Y6 R& t
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 0 f! e: v6 A- z/ W	• 1984 Toyota Van LE4 S! f) o2 \9 g3 @% P' s
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE+ [, d9 h% X7 P+ P8 d* ]6 I	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE ; L' U4 e( N! k
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 2 B$ V- t# k8 T' }! l	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5( e7 f3 u- @ H7 i% Q& ]! U C
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . q/ F1 w/ g- o5 h% F	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX 1 f5 W% S. \( J. j
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE) m& i w, D& L; c5 ]1 {* e1 X. U	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE2 b. ^! I6 N+ A* C
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE( G7 h# C* [/ w4 J: z4 X	• 1983 Toyota Supra 3 Q) \|$ S, e: Y- a
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma * B: k; }, \9 x6 A3 P5 i& v: T	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 E, y2 e7 A* A4 o; V2 [ q
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL$ {2 X( Y* @, C8 B5 t! i	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX4 p% J" ~9 Z. K6 F
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE* ~# U3 L: m" _	• 1983 Toyota Cressida " E4 X z1 w7 _6 e% l2 g) R8 g
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner N7 B: i: [( e% G/ n" @	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT / ^6 I$ \|+ }; m" ~* z4 o2 M
• 1998 Toyota T-100 {# A1 Z' d$ b. l/ P O0 l# M	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 C3 F D5 s( K8 Q- @$ O4 F7 X
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited1 o( d. W3 b& J% d" y	• 1982 Toyota Cressida : \6 q, @! T- t) C& A
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE - r6 h. r8 O& N	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX; F# ^2 e9 D6 a+ u. B2 T
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 8 k' @% M5 n w e% z9 W	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST $ g& J" a+ T( l. s- E9 y* k
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 ! F) X0 U( [% E) z2 `0 {/ f	• 1982 Toyota Tercel / K: A8 b1 v) \8 I, A: _3 X
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX( @: V) P8 p. `" t8 w	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 % v! r, r g; M, \|
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 1 s8 W0 U6 W" Q( o2 E! z	• 1981 Toyota Tercel . Q- ]7 x* Z V* h/ ?; i! h
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS ' L: U5 Q! o l- l' }	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5% v6 w# b$ ?+ L
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX, m1 [; s/ l4 q3 B+ M	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser / z# S5 j3 o. x7 @5 }4 c& X9 `
• 1997 Toyota T-100 . z. y0 T4 K; z2 i# O, I$ I5 H; P	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX3 a+ G+ a5 Z r& v
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited / Y7 [; c4 E6 }6 H; c	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ) m6 s. o. \|6 P( C
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE & u) e4 B' e: I' [+ f/ s	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT! e# x4 e4 l2 q( B) q
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5/ s0 Y W" ?5 h9 d$ T	• 1980 Toyota Corolla % A! v4 i, u! `7 l j" l/ A) D
• 1997 Toyota Corolla * i, K7 M* x' Y7 w6 v1 B2 k	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 Q5 A* w! m' Q v- T$ L
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 u _1 k/ c+ F/ r; j. T# [	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe4 r9 F* Y+ q v. s( X) n
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL1 u) C4 ]- K$ Z4 T/ q	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 3 }) d$ B9 i! j4 r. {
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE6 }/ \4 O1 H4 X& @+ Y) R7 ~	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST1 b% M- m Z4 h! k( {8 a* \! `8 a
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 7 v- A3 F7 V! E# t3 `! K! K' H	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury o3 y! @/ Z J' w
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE% ^# W; Z1 ^9 O; [' h- ^	• 1980 Toyota Tercel % O1 l5 a- }! A0 `! K. {
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE $ _) ?/ ] F( m. D1 r& p	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 6 y6 w7 \|1 K# _% p7 Y
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX " n& A2 @' I# i	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe / J. D i: p S2 N" n
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE# L0 Y3 O, B3 Z/ o	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR51 Y! q) _$ x& {% V% I Y+ E
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 P: X. I/ E* x' V# Y6 q' u# t

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 3 ]/ @* `+ d, }: n" N

: F6 g B0 t4 i如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
3 T- j4 _* r; {8 Z4 C# n, O, {( tToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
4 Z7 ?6 R) \2 B• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
+ L- _& x3 J2 |9 ^! H&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
6 o+ b8 A% D, `: S7 fApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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) g( D( B* X3 b, |" o! @/ H" _" Q1 f
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
# g# u$ e& \3 B. g: l) c2 \( u) {% M7 b: J+ C) k8 g; ]4 Z
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
$ t3 [3 O, B$ a$ M& r; g( E$ t4 h
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
6 `! X# _, X$ N# O* m% H; ~2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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