說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 2 `7 F7 t: |6 c
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
- r2 i8 o8 k$ I3 u5 m( G% W% S楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
3 m9 T# d! V* s0 l6 \3 B' S9 F" ^7 z: g楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 5 b$ @" a1 S" Q. q0 R$ E, C1 a
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE) s4 c* U' K l F	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE ! G9 m( { C0 y$ s. J
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport $ T# k) i. e5 V! G	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE2 ^6 J- u; X7 E$ c
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE # Z+ g8 c: A# g% b2 ?& B	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX v- ^9 a6 k8 E& J( V# I0 v
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5- Z$ ]) k8 s( S2 [2 {1 `' g	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * M& E; M. J# }/ V$ t" s
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 6 b# T% g+ s, P! C. L: J+ y	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE. K0 V2 a' v0 ~" ^8 \|6 M
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE % [8 N8 ^' q+ Z9 w: ~. }	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX% F6 v: m: G$ `7 K# I
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 5 ^6 @ x0 d6 g) F	• 1996 Toyota Corolla $ X0 a- j& K/ @
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited % A0 R9 c9 R7 H8 @8 m/ O8 x! ~	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5* T8 U( ~) ?- F/ V5 O" ~
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE 2 @* k" E% \. P8 p& x i* P* J4 c	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE . L' k4 W6 F+ `% H& }7 r+ j. l
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE % N" P+ V5 B# }2 \	• 1996 Toyota T-100 }$ {: T( k. L5 W) n
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE0 \8 l$ D1 l$ Y	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST# _3 ^) \| Q0 v. d/ r& V6 ]5 U
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited P1 x* ~; T) a' b: n- O	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited/ P0 I5 s2 A# `. X4 Q4 i
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * {# i; Y* `2 J' G. F	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX * _; y$ G' l. s* h
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE ( u0 J2 C# A1 ]% e. W/ N* H! `( F	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 0 O+ l% o; v' k; s& V
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE6 [; g9 g6 d7 i2 i3 V	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 2 D0 U4 T6 \|+ N6 j% T
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 t6 `7 v' S% M) t& ]' r, n	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX9 ~: C) X% ~0 W: ?9 e+ v0 v
• 2006 Toyota Tundra / t# u( w+ q* \| n	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT 4 X/ D' t( `* k( c/ P1 T7 o8 J6 s! R
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS ! v- Y1 b$ [$ T+ ~5 M	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ; W8 L! _ i, Z5 u& e* h
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL, v: p. W( U/ f. t5 H. V0 m! w	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner ) ~: y5 b4 l7 P5 c
• 2006 Toyota Prius 3 a4 O' j/ N: n0 k: x* e9 J	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 6 q% U& }* @( r8 X/ j
• 2006 Toyota Camry 7 f" @/ z, @- t2 t	• 1995 Toyota Pickup & h. X$ ~+ S' T6 T. R
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring! Y& V# O/ ~* @$ ` y' m	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE7 J: {" ^5 S/ f* {# }& n3 k
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 0 y1 \* B& \|' ]3 Z	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 0 ~& T! D& ^* h
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE- q1 ~% o* y2 W+ L$ ~6 p	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton; t3 `) M; x: b; Q# P
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 1 x7 y) Y0 G- R3 P3 h* J$ k+ ]. {	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR51 l1 E0 @* R2 b0 J. ~1 x O7 @0 r
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 4 {4 C/ w2 v/ \|% f) e' p	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5' W4 f* G4 C: S' ^2 \
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; T) m$ L+ V5 [% [0 a# y* M# w- C	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 0 B6 a$ b4 c7 C0 P% n: H2 q, M
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 1 t x$ Q4 q) N! V9 a0 z% D; I	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 2 @: T# l# y* R3 C' b/ y- f8 N0 g
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited * n" B' B- {' {) \|	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 Y; [ d- `: ~" P; I; ?- `
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE # _( C- l7 W2 J, c7 G4 ], M) {) `	• 1995 Toyota Tercel & y% N- w6 a) I! y- P7 S/ E0 z- H
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ' e2 @! r: A' v3 Y* e( a& Q' r	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 5 p) r' z. L% [* w# C8 z
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 1 x* ]5 ?+ }1 U* ?5 y7 k2 q	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX % n% s! G0 w* \, g7 l/ Z
• 2005 Toyota Tundra ( U, f4 a# S1 N+ ?1 \6 r& r	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE0 {" g. E+ M" E) c1 O! q1 T
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS $ ]4 a, ]8 W3 H$ z* O# l+ e0 Z	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX0 t9 `6 x" x) \|6 U% C ~2 b& \
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ; n) p7 B2 k. \: W; s	• 1995 Toyota T-100 7 l" v5 B4 ?1 r; R( k: E. t6 l6 s& f5 c
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 m( X$ [8 l- x- b1 ~% v	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 3 j( Y7 u/ Y7 u+ P# }. K; y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 4 r& N6 U" D" L0 ]: [) b5 w	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 8 ?8 O7 R1 _+ R# h7 a
• 2005 Toyota Camry 3 }& u( v# }$ Y! v	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 . M3 i$ _- e0 Q9 L n
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring9 c4 H/ Z! b8 U' N m; d	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 z! E) d& J- z' S
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE ) \0 T p1 M: a! R	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX2 H4 {7 \|$ [: E$ r5 E
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 3 ^3 r; `5 j4 m; s2 T	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX# ~4 x* n7 \|2 @# J- O+ U: B& x7 R1 F$ ]
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 6 N- @! A$ t# X" l( M! F	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5: N" [% ?& \|8 u) u
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma " ?8 r) g7 u! ? O	• 1994 Toyota Pickup + r9 Z7 O/ ?6 x8 p
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S0 d, _, \5 H* O8 ^9 N* \|* Y	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 8 g2 p2 \|+ v, l) M. A* r
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE5 {8 E( q; e7 F* s	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE : ^8 j: B7 c+ D7 _" t4 h4 C
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited+ N. n$ b: ]( z" m- \|- o/ W; `8 H	• 1994 Toyota T-100 4 d7 h! D$ x' _6 e# n) w
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 c( n5 r8 X, Y7 [0 @" g3 `# o	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5! A+ P+ ^" r% Q: t% r4 D
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE1 }/ R- I( q% U. X# C' q; ~	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE: s7 j% ^1 ?# `8 H: x9 \|0 l, o
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 5 i# @/ `3 T1 ~' O! w- _8 ]1 e4 }	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX- g5 q- o; M# p
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ) @/ y6 d) R( [- L+ H	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5. e( @/ l& K5 c( h8 m
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE , X6 g, m' v/ e% ]! ?3 t" t$ {	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE/ c* W) Z/ ?: d$ k: g
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE$ S+ ^4 h1 T5 B3 {' @	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ) e$ {9 D7 N7 d) Q/ t
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 5 E- _; d6 b6 a5 l Q; n( \8 X) C	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton: k7 x' z, O- v: x7 \|7 O- u8 B
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 2 k- d# G! g) F4 B, V# _& G+ ?	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE - x$ N2 W) o# L7 `/ e
• 2005 Toyota Prius " `! G6 A2 D# I7 ^5 A, w6 b( A4 C	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 5 o5 h& W% B+ E* j( A3 V0 a
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE: _: n' p0 j! J/ ~	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton& S' L% o* _ S4 a0 Y5 F4 F
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE. z0 P. e. d; a2 E- Q& e2 C	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / P5 \|- Q2 T& {0 m' o5 D
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited4 G# y' g8 i, H7 x* s& v9 b: v	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX+ h4 B& p( `2 T5 x
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR56 O f( t0 Y2 `% u	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX ) ?% Z& y8 a6 k# g( `' Q) f- t
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE6 y7 G5 M% A( `8 i1 a* \' \|	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 8 Z3 N: x5 f: w1 L% m$ e
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE " Z) t' s' ?7 O1 c6 Q% @+ R( P	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser * k ~+ R4 y- w6 B1 Z* s1 k
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE 3 _0 m" c5 ?( R	• 1993 Toyota T-100 2 g1 F& f- ^6 f! b- a9 ]
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 9 T, l2 T# U* B& S# y) \|% U	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE . _1 m" R# \|! E& L+ _: g# U9 \|
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 0 k8 V4 d! n: W U	• 1993 Toyota Pickup ( i5 j/ M1 w, R* x4 b- a: U
• 2004 Toyota Prius ) W! ~; h Q6 C; k; r% P' q6 n	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE! {! R2 v* a. R. W0 d5 T
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma $ z0 K, D! ^5 k	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE1 m, w5 z3 @# Y; Z9 y9 c
• 2004 Toyota Tundra " P0 N& u4 J( t+ ~; ]	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5$ ?% q, D! T# ]% X
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 9 x. U9 V4 P. l' D- W	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 ) \|% w1 @6 z8 }! N5 {) T
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited! \|/ b- ]% D% \9 ^/ s	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 4 e9 U+ M" a9 P" e# ?* @
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited, T) r. O4 a: {( r5 H	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 6 J4 M Z4 u% r( s" [ S
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE0 o0 T( J% t$ v( N/ J6 {+ ~+ o7 r: L	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX # u5 r. C2 a; z/ C! C9 Z, t$ {' Q
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE ! _+ M8 T2 ?$ o% T	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE # k% [" M! L0 K1 L4 x8 C" O+ H
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE" v3 e `. J ~) e# x4 f) F	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac ! x% [$ ]% \4 e# v; a$ ?
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 8 {6 V* T5 f; n( H	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton8 A2 K: w; L" P) \|) W! L
• 2004 Toyota Highlander # ?: N, N( J) C3 H0 }# j7 \( G	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ; }, c S0 C) J8 ^1 `1 r
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 4 X! w: B6 _( T' @$ t' }	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 7 {. S' k5 p0 i
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 9 \' ]: B/ u& ^, ^$ s8 o' e	• 1992 Toyota MR2 - R* F! R3 ^. F9 {
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner W( H% `& \7 W- d+ p( Z0 t	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 8 v/ _/ c0 \|( I$ y
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5" z$ E0 Q/ W! T9 D, q* \; M	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 8 U% V6 K! D; N3 t1 T% Y
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS; h$ ?: Y% y: x4 O	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac 8 k! M9 T0 Z6 M1 P I m7 q
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner4 E ]0 ]7 `0 v/ H% `# ~+ V' l	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR55 G) }7 o5 g" K3 C; J1 K7 y8 ]7 a9 H
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S ( W% S9 M/ T# a( M	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX 6 x0 x- R ^9 a- @: o
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited4 ]1 ^' ?4 O! m* v6 D. V	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5! o2 f0 ]8 k: o( s8 q8 Q! w% d
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner2 [+ G; f" O/ i- Q	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser ; i% M R! y& C6 G6 p% K
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5* f( ^' V1 p, `, x	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof( U% ^; u$ a. O7 t6 ^1 k1 C3 T5 g
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 5 B( \* d& g, b4 f	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE/ f! _. X8 \* C' [
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE+ n/ t3 H* X8 J: O	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5) f/ _/ H/ n8 t Q; ]9 ~
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT% P- E- N4 e# [ u	• 1991 Toyota Camry : h2 D) ^+ d: M, S6 \
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE # J# a* \; v5 F+ [	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 c% d" _5 u4 ~8 N
• 2003 Toyota Highlander : `! ?% w% [8 k3 Z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup + `: S0 u6 }# E2 f. X) F& n. b) J
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 1 k5 K4 O5 e+ ?2 G2 `	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ; R3 K$ x; D9 j- L0 V/ @1 R/ ^2 w
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ) m8 M& T5 {& S) J& ~	• 1991 Toyota MR2 ( d5 f9 Q1 h% C! g' O, S0 z+ ^& d
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE2 l" D0 f% l4 ^8 e$ B	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ u& {& D, z: [, V8 w7 }' G
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited6 ^( w6 \# m. m% G8 C* l. v) q6 ^+ N	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX . e( J9 ?; U: U' J
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 6 i- I4 g; e* F' _4 L/ s2 e	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac( x/ k# W& O/ T
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 8 l, Y9 c% v: J" s! m	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac! U0 e, g! h" p
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE- q3 J2 b0 P$ f	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 3 w# M0 Y' l, ~* [# L
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE 0 N7 ~+ U2 }+ s5 M$ f9 G' X% \|5 p	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited3 D% v8 A! `# Y! S2 n	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE) I( a0 D+ C8 s& A
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited8 `( n0 w1 I9 v' [* j' T; S	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 1 o+ M8 X$ x' e0 a5 x3 X0 ^! w9 r2 c
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited6 N. }' k0 {# d- h6 \- @ }+ q	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 1 J, J4 ^. t* I- k; B7 O$ \ j6 z
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 1 R% D* @: i' O! S. O	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ; _/ u. @) e6 u% _4 K+ m( P
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE ) p# E5 J4 T% m$ z; W0 h9 g' k8 r	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 a6 s4 @# K% B: b3 v
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited8 s* y, E2 Y- D% U	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ 5 o! q5 t7 G& l% B: r) M9 Q
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE! H8 v5 _* K6 V! Y) b	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 3 g# ?1 ^# n9 @' d( b1 D7 v2 U, ]3 O
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT6 u5 q; V& r3 }4 c2 q6 B( ~	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 3 b1 u e+ k$ ]7 P
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner+ s! Z$ {7 ^# o. Q; T	• 1990 Toyota Camry V) G! N J" }$ T! L7 Q) K
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S7 ]2 ^" O" D3 c0 v- W	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 5 X. }* _5 S, J
• 2002 Toyota Highlander / U C% y# S+ H	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX " @9 Q) v% h& n: s5 n1 F3 ]- O
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner- r+ P' b/ [9 R5 ?3 Z	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX * A, Z+ R9 N: l" `+ o& N' d, f
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR59 v4 @- l) y( U; \3 j2 X% Y- ^	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) d- g5 V1 D# B3 M
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5- s8 D% z5 D& o8 a	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS6 H- \|: ?6 Q2 e) i# T
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 1 Z+ p( @# r% o# y! \8 z	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 R4 \|' a- @! x2 m& H0 X% B
• 2002 Toyota Prius # w3 B$ s$ f3 W	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton - M/ {/ [2 ^% k% a1 P i
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 # L0 z1 P( A$ c	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX' C/ D/ ~& b# `* A7 c
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS2 p5 h0 D6 ~! Z3 P# \|3 W/ _+ ]: S	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac / E$ ^. q9 A) R) Q. V
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE . ]- Z; F$ z; o8 @- L7 P	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac4 G( v; p& V! l
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma # O9 @/ ]1 j- u	• 1990 Toyota Tercel P4 S5 M( H- Q% `3 r# F* [8 ^
• 2002 Toyota Tundra $ L' x7 Y- _- Y( t7 y. j	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac) p9 \) z+ E2 d' }" X1 W X ?
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ( o- g; ?( {" b$ ]4 _	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac : R. Z2 Y7 B+ J ]. s' o
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 4 R6 Z: _; V- \|0 t+ L/ r4 C) C	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ' O0 T1 W- [0 H! Z/ A
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL, T% b3 w0 _) U" }3 v+ c3 V# I	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base1 p& j; B ^0 ^
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited ) X! \6 Y3 s- `+ I+ b: w2 [; w	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac% w- R8 g y; w: [7 \
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT& ?5 K9 P3 d& d& {	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser % P$ T5 X# s+ ^8 b: f- Y
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE( }3 G9 Q2 B: o7 F	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE- S; T0 U& a9 i8 b! y
• 2001 Toyota Prius 5 ^' q# q0 a4 L6 g' }& m7 w: G$ I1 \	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX . E% b. }9 [1 t: t U* M/ j
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma " ] e1 W6 q- k1 q I4 \4 C( x	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, l5 @1 u1 v1 t' ?7 B( ]
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 4 X/ c7 f: a5 j" ]- B3 j/ d	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger : X& S) }: r3 r% @: [2 V" W/ w
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 7 d. l8 r! N8 {9 l* W% v) W: D! x	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX # a/ w2 d) k6 t3 L
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited; m( F, j4 L( H+ D+ h	• 1989 Toyota Camry ! u- J. l; j" ~" W' _& n4 q
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2 \4 U1 U( P. {! b	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 9 i/ E0 h& _7 u) }; p
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE F! c# a" C' o0 B$ i' d" \	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 9 n0 Q; F. Z. Y5 P' A0 V
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE % v: ~* J5 A5 ]. u) U	• 1989 Toyota Pickup $ G i% X/ ^/ c/ l2 P+ m' S
• 2001 Toyota ECHO & I+ b1 c% ]! r" m+ e% I	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! I) S M/ ~' N; n
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS9 ]) k5 G4 n' N* J- y; r	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger( ~8 \|. v, S5 I1 J: P; X
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 0 E4 S$ K* @' G; S6 ~5 z/ C! R	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ 2 z7 k3 H8 b% u p( [0 M9 Q
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR52 Y- t, c. ]8 \|9 A* [# z	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 2 K& L0 W& f6 O
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner, a, ~6 E3 O+ c	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 5 ^9 Q4 ^& c6 K5 Y' x" n& h
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 7 C* m8 }/ K# R! ~8 b+ H	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ / K0 Y" Y. ~9 Z/ k
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S, X C+ v' ~& J4 n) @* w	• 1988 Toyota Camry ' N( n. }) w2 @9 N" X5 u9 C; P
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner % f2 U% Y7 O0 }: v# v3 \|	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 6 S) \|" Z2 l: O( b6 f+ X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 2 q2 l" D' ?6 K3 M: Q* X w8 U	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger # B, \|) _, T: _, V( L
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 5 N7 \* f; H& d) Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX+ D3 }8 ^2 _, I6 h' }0 j; G
• 2001 Toyota Highlander , C# [* U$ `9 j4 ?) q! O6 u	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac. M# L+ J+ j8 P: y0 x/ D# l# H
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 6 j* X- N- ?7 }! T3 C( q4 y& r	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 0 g' H* q: c' A7 T5 }
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 6 j0 p e N$ E W8 @6 m, g	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger % G0 x+ L1 Y, k
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma h" s; k$ Y9 i2 r5 d* S9 @6 t, _	• 1988 Toyota Tercel " I2 C# i$ h, V; V( O9 R
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT : C( d4 M$ [9 F9 l9 P	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE0 @ u3 z* n2 A' F& P& T1 [! j
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE+ A- x$ C: u5 }, v* ?	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window/ u+ S% l' _7 f
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 ! Y$ y7 g5 z, z6 Y ]" Y* l- q	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton . o5 N e) L3 x& x, V! r
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner2 F; X1 \|# @: c/ x6 a" Y/ _	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser & O8 m7 d) {& [% }1 ]
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 / K$ c ]7 I# E7 C	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5/ s' e" l1 w" c
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited8 m: D7 O3 N/ T1 z% z	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger; ^2 a# z$ e5 K
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE- m. k2 k1 D' f# J! I2 S# K	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B1 E4 H+ n9 A0 I# D3 [5 d- K: b
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS t* B2 X$ V9 q9 i) b	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac" S0 Q" f6 G& J2 b7 ]) r
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE ; s! l! Q& t4 g" `	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger & r3 v6 e4 D" I+ q
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 1 w. w3 \|2 q+ ]3 o	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR59 Q8 K8 X; n; k
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited6 T" H. x5 M5 A/ Y# l	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX$ o, j9 L, z/ u. M7 ?
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 8 _) q" P2 `: A6 ~' v3 ^	• 1988 Toyota Van LE & s, u; t# L/ @$ p, t: Z, ]8 Z5 [8 Y
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS& J7 b( {0 F- \|/ {/ ~( y	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 ~0 ]) r, I8 u+ r8 ?* V5 `: b2 X
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE: } ~ ~0 {9 g. y' D	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 V- @" ~4 G) i/ f J8 G0 h& T
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited - L! a7 ]# R- N0 ~! N8 j$ _	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 8 {0 r1 m1 `* q9 Z% \|
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner - U; y0 m) t L% S k w	• 1987 Toyota Van DX : D( S- n& Y m! x
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE : Q2 ~# t0 d0 o	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window; `6 X4 r& }. P7 v% L+ j/ ]
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR59 \5 b* V& B& b	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton) u" ~# {3 z8 ?, e. V% B
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE9 z& E$ Z% u; e9 i! R' h1 N& ^/ d	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 H4 @; a5 i& f1 A
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL- G2 ~% F8 V: i# f: T	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX : Y- n, \|2 b3 n0 X/ C# u6 K; l4 u
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner $ X3 ]; _* ~5 t8 L" _$ E	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 9 l& S3 p$ \7 V5 S9 y
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 5 V3 z* z2 K8 i	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX + F' z6 @* m9 p3 c; J' S3 y0 `* H
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , K9 k, F1 G3 V# S7 r( h	• 1987 Toyota Van LE! t- D( Z; a0 c u% {
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE ! S0 H. Q0 c: H' Z	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel) j) s4 d# O {* Z' M+ Q7 b
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE9 \|: O+ v' [% _4 Z3 B	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX. R4 U: O* P: z0 t' K z/ T4 S2 w* k8 i
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma ' N; r9 x( Y* u1 {	• 1987 Toyota Pickup N, W" U7 Z" t, k7 O ?# x
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS3 [9 ^' i, r6 t! r& ?" x	• 1986 Toyota Van LE / w$ W/ ^. b2 S1 M3 o% m8 P
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE1 \0 T- t' L7 i- v: w w1 W$ ~3 s	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser # l$ x0 `' \|/ ] ^, a
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ( Y) n9 Z! v! ^9 O+ V' d" e! d	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel/ k: q, P: [0 {3 R4 ^. \|! `
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 \|! p. D, M* l4 h4 [2 e \|	• 1986 Toyota Van DX v b1 Z2 x( X9 g! m
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited$ A; Z+ F2 C9 X# i) Y1 @	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 9 C# j2 v' T& r5 R* z
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE! x, ]7 ~6 \|+ B1 e# r% z	• 1985 Toyota Van ' L0 L7 S2 X; e5 ^- b6 \! d9 \|* ~
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE3 L8 F+ C7 X+ \5 P	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 4 m$ y7 N' x/ D6 [: F
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL & }9 `2 f/ W) _0 `+ v	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 4 u) h, v) W9 s/ B* f
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE. ?1 K2 a" K4 \; d$ Q8 i" I	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser - x+ g) l7 q. O! X
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 9 s4 r n- a3 B8 q9 u	• 1984 Toyota Van DX4 t1 D6 u0 I: I7 q% L/ @1 b" G6 P
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE. m7 I$ S# ?5 Y; A5 b	• 1984 Toyota Supra # e, n: `, x8 R: t
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 7 v: M1 }1 E; e/ L( r) J( M0 J	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX9 A3 w5 ]2 n6 C5 t
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 0 F9 ^, y* M }	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 C1 i' G5 i' s$ [' n
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited# {# e+ K- j6 o) A	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 6 }( o9 m2 ~! J
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 \|3 C3 x3 o/ x	• 1984 Toyota Van ; u3 U$ z H2 \: _1 y4 g
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE6 p6 ]+ e+ L( I; d* q	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE3 B$ L* x( P& E* \| d- C2 `
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner + H) [( y7 i1 ~; b- Q	• 1984 Toyota Van LE: X; C6 R9 `5 p/ C# Q1 ~
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE* ]3 M0 b0 l# B- A# I3 _4 G$ o	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE& S+ }' j0 J. }; \|! Y2 a5 [
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 1 Z [9 Q7 I3 a) V9 N" q; f( [	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 3 \|- \|3 U4 b( Q* y# E8 e! k8 _# J
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 u9 M3 ?/ L$ Y	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX. @# _" I+ b2 Y+ ^5 R! E8 G; g( @
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 1 Q6 F$ ~4 K' {' r	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE0 l% J( U% `: [. S2 V0 s
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 4 \) `% h0 q0 W4 P2 S	• 1983 Toyota Supra / ?; y) A3 o6 K& x1 Z
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma . \! Y7 y. V3 n% q1 a2 Q# u% R0 q- Q	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 Z+ c' s/ ~' k! Z
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL y6 R, _* j+ T6 ?! g4 `; f s( R	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX5 X; E/ F6 ?: a4 w4 Y
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE / v8 B4 r1 m) ]/ L7 X8 C	• 1983 Toyota Cressida & e/ ^* U7 R4 A+ y
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. o! m# o, m( y' z( q0 g8 V	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT B7 \- H( Q G" A0 @
• 1998 Toyota T-100 . ~# U* V" L8 n1 t% u4 t# M* u	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser % r V/ }# ^( G0 w x
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited ) R% t# ~' i# G: J% B: \|	• 1982 Toyota Cressida : O$ z8 `$ `8 `* p; B; x# j% K
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE3 {7 q' m) L$ s6 S [9 N2 r	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX + l5 S) `! K3 Y: w' b
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 " v6 s! } {; X/ P2 Y6 V	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST" L9 c; K* i& p8 b
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 & @4 r* P' a+ I* H1 J$ D$ z* [% E7 n	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 5 e* Q/ l, E2 V/ `. t0 l; ?0 o' W
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX $ w1 U6 k! o" s9 b, u	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 3 @- {+ j! q7 i* U2 B
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 1 \" u# z$ B( e" g6 L	• 1981 Toyota Tercel % a4 q; ^( o) k; t' D: {
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS c6 c$ D6 g& `- q	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 & a2 L1 b9 r( K# \|: d
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX8 ]5 W# g& _1 t0 R1 m6 A. _4 l	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 j0 Q% C" t. l
• 1997 Toyota T-100 9 e# n( t3 _8 L6 U; O/ P	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX : _. k3 W0 m2 l' m$ ^5 f9 z& P
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited+ d7 F2 v5 K: u/ ?2 _( w	• 1981 Toyota Cressida * g; Y, ~8 \|) W
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE$ T& h9 o0 M) Z }4 E	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT $ i8 F. M; w8 j0 ^% H7 s! I3 ~2 ]
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5. Q( g! J7 d0 O: d I	• 1980 Toyota Corolla * Q1 }' g' U4 Q+ g
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 3 a7 l& l: a- z. S! b- N	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser * L6 G1 V% r) ?# k J M
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR54 B8 ]; e6 V0 P1 U' k	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe ' s2 y. ^4 A+ w$ g& b8 ]% b) P' e$ n
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL i, k3 f' [. S- h \|' p	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX . \|% w# c; i6 ?2 S
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE ! m. q* D3 h; s# a( H, T% D8 Q* s5 _# O	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST4 @% F. d) J+ t+ A% ]$ u" E
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 2 t' b8 p# h) T: H1 ~	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury; G* [3 ?/ }# W! _; b/ M) v
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE# d* T* Z# \3 [/ a	• 1980 Toyota Tercel / J5 }: m5 g0 l: o! I& O
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE! a. ~8 \$ v7 O9 L$ }1 J	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR51 M- W& Y( e: A* D8 W
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX . M# s/ y& F% x4 Z1 G	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe) h* }" n, O0 L
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE $ P7 Z# p5 u$ \	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5) a7 G( l) x- d4 b# ? D
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ~( r5 ?+ Z5 g

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 # N+ b- N0 K; Z ^0 w+ Q2 }5 ~
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：: u; [1 q3 n2 p9 y
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
) S4 }$ s& O( X# k' b• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
( k' `! s1 V+ U- E&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 ( Y5 {9 g) [( Z( t1 S8 o5 D. a6 S/ ^
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 * f6 ?# j" W' w! [) C

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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
: [; V% Y7 R: u4 `5 o5 \" G) }$ d4 n9 x
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：& ^* t1 M6 P/ e& G

* Q2 i3 k9 L& ?% N1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；/ T' m- G k3 J9 D0 O
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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