說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 * i4 u3 Y/ V! A, N2 b7 E
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
, s% y# G$ K1 ]) Y* \楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
) H8 c9 _% I0 Z4 ^5 o9 \楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE / ~& J) h' g! x! k	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE * `/ o3 t2 g/ o$ Z4 W$ f/ W6 S
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport3 }, W& \4 O4 \|8 t2 w. A	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE6 p; H3 b# q' P6 K
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE7 \|& T. U# I9 {8 F7 ?. [- G	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX " m% U( \; \$ z" g) G! H
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 , `. M4 i' y M+ ^	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR53 J4 y/ ^7 t2 N, L {2 A; R
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 7 d- w6 ~$ h: q	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 4 f' I% U& v% F
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE+ k" F( _8 d8 O' B D5 L% V+ v	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX - } J) ?, p( K$ V: e, G& T1 b
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid) \3 \|2 u( N! J. G	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 8 Q2 W; a2 a3 ]! \) @- r: A+ \
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited; d2 T" C" @/ }	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5% Y, E' Q$ F& l9 A8 j7 @' J
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE % p8 I5 t) b! u) k" \|# N+ a	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE ( I3 k" Z% N" } Q) G. U5 D4 }
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE V+ @! r3 C0 g4 T	• 1996 Toyota T-100 , f* v w: K3 C; s4 l
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 3 n+ j" M. }2 e% @	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST ( c- g* c' U' ?% k" s9 ?
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited8 x6 @% ?) t. K, H0 j' u/ a	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited ; j! D1 I( ~& P- S/ Y
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner, t7 `, @2 l# y% l0 J! h9 Q" m# r	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX; g/ O% u# i. V7 \|) E3 a
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE- \6 ^8 b; [* D	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 6 p ~: e5 W# [2 d- a
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE* H; N8 [+ B6 r' [# O9 s) z5 J' b	• 1996 Toyota Tercel / }: x0 g" H* `4 B' I
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5. T! B1 Z+ Y$ q- r" ]	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX2 n) {5 W4 A9 K0 \|: @& C
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 7 G* I5 U" J5 G" t( \|/ T! E	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT, \|; t$ u. m3 [0 [, C: V& A
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS K- L6 S6 f" D) p	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma W+ `! E6 {+ \& ]& a
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL 4 @# M1 d, Z) n) m6 o0 T	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner - X6 n, v4 j4 z# h" I7 E
• 2006 Toyota Prius ; w. r: P- r8 F	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX7 e0 ], w& X% j5 d! x9 i
• 2006 Toyota Camry $ v d+ a( G0 V* ?1 j/ D	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 9 Q% v3 u& ]$ U0 B0 J
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring ! n8 G; V: i, w' d) d	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE 2 x x" @$ w1 X8 S% Q& L
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 9 o2 E* p' w. ~: V8 d	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE Y& a& v( h% ?: z: V$ N& i
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE % H+ f# O: w }& D7 y$ a0 S9 M: ]	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 0 j! _& }' i \|
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited6 [7 m, R/ ?. q! h	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR58 L8 n0 J5 \|% i2 l x e
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner# J6 [+ q# W+ \|" a4 L	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 + Y3 I1 u+ l$ X6 u( u+ ?1 {
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5) j; P5 N" G1 O0 }# @7 I; \|	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX+ I2 X9 S- @( C8 n, w8 _2 F0 [
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S5 s- l; L) u* i( N9 n+ P5 ~	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX) D9 c1 S" J- B% T4 m3 W
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited& U$ h/ R$ l6 c9 @2 I* Q$ Y	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( A3 ~1 W2 d$ k% d$ K" h: A
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE / Z# {* V4 `: D0 \|! o' T# \|6 W	• 1995 Toyota Tercel & M) a; W$ {0 s- E
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 0 ]- A+ F5 i2 y7 f	• 1995 Toyota Corolla & q- Z! A+ o4 K1 F' p: r
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner7 s" F3 x+ n$ ^+ t	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX$ ^6 \|4 U$ ?: Y) r3 Z9 w( y: g4 V
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 1 K. L( p y: T# B- E. Z* n	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE & O. ]" H& h/ r! r5 I. C! b' O: n* M
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 5 z1 C/ f! n7 r	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 3 z+ x/ F7 D% B. l
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 8 j8 ?+ ?& x, \|9 t9 S3 ?	• 1995 Toyota T-100 8 M5 P* G9 E+ _2 T/ m4 z
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 x' ~* h% }, H$ C5 [& z	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 6 j) e, D" F+ f5 l' {. O
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL9 ]; z) e" l/ P( J	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 4 G3 B5 V* g( k m
• 2005 Toyota Camry - K3 d; i: ` O	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 Y3 V$ V, p" c& y
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring' f- G) j9 h# ^: N3 ^	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX & ?$ h- {$ z$ ?4 Q6 o/ a* T
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 9 N. \|2 [& X' P7 m	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX! j- E8 Y: h* C# E; h* ]/ {. _
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE x' [$ t, r# e; D! e/ j	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX5 e- [+ ?4 u. {# L' N3 J
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 4 B v1 C r% G3 p	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 . @8 Z1 f- b/ R, G6 ~2 V2 z
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ' z( N2 X4 K, K K& o6 K	• 1994 Toyota Pickup * O* o0 `: s/ ^( p6 p7 [1 l
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S % l5 U' V* g4 B) g. e2 R6 O* Z	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 0 ~% F! I. _; f( V, H' @
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE% \|$ N1 X9 P8 E% b$ N	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE , w; R: x4 X/ N: @1 [& D2 f
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited( I B" A) w& n( n7 J6 W	• 1994 Toyota T-100 5 ~" M* E$ \|8 C6 k' M
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5& e0 F* l3 I0 Q- k; \, j( m3 j+ C	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5! P( D' T! e% g- p
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE1 N) x3 \|9 W7 ^2 I w# [& L	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE , B( p% m3 w S) K
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 ; U" t" n: r4 H- @) I# e	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX O, d1 X/ Q- c) F. i
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS * l5 Y3 o+ _! V4 k	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR57 I1 W1 ]6 \|! n. k
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE6 r- P1 t3 E _3 h; Q	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE& ~* r# Q% g0 i" y8 \|
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE. T' p3 Q1 q2 E/ c, i8 i0 J5 D	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 8 c+ V7 r7 O# P- h5 g
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 4 t- R$ D' m; f- \6 `% z	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton% {0 P7 Q# e2 i9 i
• 2005 Toyota Highlander . W' W6 H) {% L) g4 k	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE - [4 B/ Q) F# X B4 p5 J0 b
• 2005 Toyota Prius ' O" Y6 C4 `; _! p	• 1993 Toyota Corolla ! n+ V6 H5 P+ J' @' N' K' a
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE: Q7 P' _/ }) \|$ Z	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton4 _$ K- c2 z9 l+ K+ P1 J; {2 F
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE : d4 y7 k- z! \% u* m" }	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 K# [9 x( @ O( \& _$ o) f
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited `$ x2 O4 G3 Z	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX* v" b$ M" U9 U. p% y# n$ i
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5* K7 K# T* z( ?( E. ]. v& y	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX 5 q+ b( w* x, J k8 v$ z
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE , G4 x& N/ A0 E+ B* ?, j	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX; f6 T- I4 a, Q- C2 D9 v/ t
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE* T2 h! p2 B/ F$ K	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser + `7 f/ G% [: K# Z* c" p5 s
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE , {+ _1 ]* @* u	• 1993 Toyota T-100 0 G8 t- B! s/ M# B: V* T6 J) u/ ]
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 3 l# ?$ W; @! z2 e& q9 G	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE: v1 z, Y$ \% r
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited; d+ K- \* z Y5 H8 k	• 1993 Toyota Pickup # x! w. U. g0 d: { e
• 2004 Toyota Prius 5 a" y3 E3 V: N1 E4 F! ?9 K; `	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 8 ^& m8 j5 d C/ j# @
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma * m% B( l3 G7 @+ ?5 c# @	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE5 }- T9 c( _6 c6 b, y
• 2004 Toyota Tundra ' a$ x' I9 [3 l6 U1 T% a	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5! o* ^* F* c3 O5 k, v) y8 S! U
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE6 m- t' N$ c4 ~. D	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 , `& W# _" e6 y1 m& I( D9 R# W
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited6 ]+ G- _* Z) l, T8 g4 U% T# ^	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE% a. C! Z. h* @8 ]
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited9 h/ b2 t: I1 u4 j/ I	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE . f/ a6 \|1 d1 s! L) L: {
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE u6 j2 k" \|' u3 ^8 X5 a7 i	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX # `, _& g r1 s r3 a
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 9 Y# n. n% E! t) ?	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE - P( @( I+ O; D( m0 w8 @: D- k
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE% Y9 Q7 m" p- X" t; F	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac ' k& r; E+ P# T- P: \|( t: T) Q
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited7 \% o- v! m4 \4 p, u& J! o	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, l2 N/ E( j' m4 L% z
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 1 h- ?' E# F" G# ^' K4 I7 u4 ]* @5 I	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE- m/ g1 I* y% L; q5 x) L" M# ^$ B
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner - f1 j @7 F& n* i: n5 Q7 c/ z) i	• 1992 Toyota Corolla , Y- f% J$ b$ h" i2 {
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S / N: e) f1 B* F! c4 Z: S6 Y	• 1992 Toyota MR2 5 Y \|7 w/ U1 C! J \9 w
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner9 V* h$ S) X4 H	• 1992 Toyota Pickup , \|* B0 Z; j3 f8 \|* i/ k
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 6 k2 m \# w* G/ a& Q9 p	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX2 m4 C" l- z3 P, h @: R
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS ) B5 k6 Y' `! x1 p, l	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac' ^( y1 i9 i$ i( \|: f% N6 f
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner : u0 s, o; s, V0 t& e	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 . {4 w5 w4 B/ t& Y
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S / G+ f( `/ x+ n	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX% r) n$ }* c7 z6 \|0 B' f1 D. D3 i) v
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ; \|; R* _, r' u# u5 A3 s7 x% s	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR57 I- I& m4 Z+ ~, n# s. _' M
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner $ n' F. p/ ?7 O$ ^0 M2 _	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser ( `- w& z$ d* S8 T5 @
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 - D/ c/ ~9 U/ d2 e4 l" j	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ) W' k3 \% {' O0 } e# P
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited4 `5 ?7 y% H! ]. m	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE" W9 S9 p9 F1 U9 d) K# a
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 2 x' ?' u" [( R( t	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5( r J/ t' F+ \3 r
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT 1 P: x. \|9 S0 M( b% a" s	• 1991 Toyota Camry 0 ?0 T/ K" [3 z
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE & P& w+ k/ r$ q! \/ R	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser - m+ q& g' _3 d; I
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 7 S. m; M; y: e3 \+ O- q) Q3 E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup , T" _6 a* U' ?* [
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ( U4 V8 \9 l5 ?8 p" X6 ?: l# j	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX* u& O1 I/ E$ x/ b# Y
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 7 X0 C! h5 ~3 h* E _$ I6 R6 V	• 1991 Toyota MR2 ) s' \|6 B. n4 H4 ]% S
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 7 n6 F, s0 a) M( L# U l	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5; W$ E- r1 _2 ~$ j8 e
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 7 _ s" L- a9 n( j$ E	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX( Q6 l' x4 f1 j- C* X# ?
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE" s: H4 c; Y: ~4 }, m5 h# e7 q	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac# T; x9 x: c! E, y. _- v q* O7 A
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ( R a" I5 C$ `0 q$ Q	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac w1 Q& }: ?1 N- H- h; M
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE5 x4 v+ Z% C. r	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof# L* J1 p7 ~3 ~3 w0 x; q5 E; s
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE 3 h9 u- K! J \; H! v	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX . H- ]( N0 R5 m% f7 ?
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited1 ^& C& Y! Y! e2 L	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE# A) Q$ Q4 u; I" }# [
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited " z+ y/ [# D8 L( O: g	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton: Y T/ x6 \- q& w+ W% `# b0 C
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 8 N1 b1 Z% m6 _7 \% b# v+ L$ W- ^	• 1990 Toyota Pickup + W& E+ g. \ P7 W* n; q9 I
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 5 @) Q- T7 [: X8 h	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE* H# z, K# m% _0 T
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE1 x. ]4 I* T8 v2 Y' g& e+ G, Y	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5* o5 F4 {; K1 ^5 W: s. v
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited+ \7 e5 H" C7 V5 N; w. c	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ6 _ B* @1 Y- ?
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE7 Z# A U& i, e8 s! c1 z	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT , y+ r1 k' B6 J/ \|) \|
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT% m" W7 W7 }) w3 k	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base1 C/ x7 ^7 M2 k: i4 c
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner! S' C$ o( G6 k% j& u ~	• 1990 Toyota Camry & H9 i5 {* e* C* A" k
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S) O- n% [( ^4 K; K! j	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 2 s/ F$ f, f, w
• 2002 Toyota Highlander + ?1 _8 G n$ v: F$ \|$ A% f V$ j	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX ( r# g, p: W6 o% z% k
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& _6 W3 D3 B$ M) F	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX# d2 j& P) M8 q; {) ]% s8 m' s
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5' n6 u7 H0 C/ J) i0 a" I) H	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * b0 U4 n: L/ k* ^) Y/ {
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5* l# C/ \|3 U- P- h9 x2 r% v	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS + F2 c# _1 t, X& P
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE# K) g) Y4 j# p& V. l	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser / v% `2 J) E1 T
• 2002 Toyota Prius 0 l# _! Q) X6 V	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton" p9 H" K- M4 M2 b5 e6 H
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR57 L6 [ ~" k3 L# Z' g	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX ) ~$ K( X/ e) J0 M) z
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS! @# F8 s( H4 u% o	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac+ a/ _9 T8 w& O/ A* V) x
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE ) f" ]1 ]( s$ r$ o0 ]' F	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac3 q! K4 I5 x0 R1 W
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ) X- ^; m( U# B% ` c3 X% C' C/ w	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 6 f* a8 V+ j+ e7 u6 m# \|0 n
• 2002 Toyota Tundra & z3 g" { a, e0 O% n, Q	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac2 k: K$ Y" Q y( V. v8 \, u. U
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE' ~/ L- G7 P& t q# p	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac- B8 w" [* `7 M+ `4 r
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE # w' m7 V8 v0 J	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger. o0 p& I' y1 D3 }! m1 \, m
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL . N; X: F/ @% d5 `. S	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base* i9 p& }$ }* t
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited ' ?( i0 p+ a: ?& m6 U% R	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac0 w0 R/ u5 T0 y2 ~9 D( @
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT7 B9 x4 M( R K: Q	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 L x, V, [ C5 _! k
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE; K, }3 b- z' E2 E	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE3 v9 Y3 V% h4 b! I& }* z \|
• 2001 Toyota Prius ) y1 q! @1 @# u9 _5 C' e+ f	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX / k8 S# _9 g: F. V5 ]8 f( l, V
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 5 R! ]; G e6 o9 W	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 9 l& a' V( g9 l* o2 e' V
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 3 }' N1 z V1 I; d$ A9 o& D	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger" O, H& g7 x, u. m# M' ~+ \|
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE . V' o9 ?: ^6 y# L	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX - E) _0 Q* l$ Q" W! c1 h
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited6 y( ]0 c7 m2 M2 ]1 v& F	• 1989 Toyota Camry 3 x% c+ w4 a; \+ P
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5( F2 W, K3 G0 C: C% a	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 1 j5 A# \|, m, w& @/ N+ z- d
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE' Z$ m8 Y; W6 ~$ X9 G( ]	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 8 ^4 I) k- Y+ t
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE ) v! [& U' U `( r- a2 u) j1 W3 ~+ D	• 1989 Toyota Pickup & J, n0 j Y& d0 K
• 2001 Toyota ECHO / ~; N2 Y. {% i	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR57 c. L4 d+ l, x' J p, Z0 S. `
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS * p: ^% V) @3 p	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 9 G1 w2 N# N# n
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE+ W% t) [# \( d/ W	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ ( K% u7 y0 F0 b
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR58 o' n \|" U8 N, \' g	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel / V" \|" t; }2 @9 R3 \|% P: N
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner - P/ C: r4 y4 p$ S, M. i, b* F5 v: v# Y	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX( ^7 x6 N3 \|3 ~8 G6 }9 N
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 2 [) B# _+ C9 O, ~- v: ~	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ ( Z& F5 ]1 j3 E
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S$ r9 k7 r* G% ]( O6 W* ]) P" Z" y: u	• 1988 Toyota Camry " R0 X/ Y$ ^9 {$ q( V
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner3 x6 }+ u, F2 S+ Y: K# f8 a	• 1988 Toyota Pickup + C2 w; j p3 Y C" ~
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 ' n5 ?9 A S; ]: X ?	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger : z; @. G' A! B# o0 f) n( r
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE, a2 \/ v$ n* R& u" ?- ^	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ' K0 c* a# B9 Q/ o+ \: o
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 1 b r% C" Z: F" Z; d	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac* x' D/ V+ s# j. I
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited1 f: \|( Z& [3 ~	• 1988 Toyota Van DX7 ?5 N7 `( G! [# N/ t
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ' D% b) k! e6 Q1 @/ J( P8 u	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 1 a) m$ a S$ O7 d$ K
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 7 v: r) j2 f c& C+ }	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ' x0 I2 e6 l8 k
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 0 ^+ S, g2 ^2 @: R3 {	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE \|% @# H4 o; p
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE0 b" i! i1 i1 O& k	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window ; k4 n/ l3 t& j0 m
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 1 \|. q4 n) z) R" `	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton8 b r0 A/ `* Q2 A9 C4 R/ W$ R
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner( [; Q) Q: u# L7 Y2 I	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ! o1 g* p* F5 `, U! v, D. k
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5' \|" C2 e! @' z7 ~	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 " h f N, l& n. s, \
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited2 I9 K3 @$ C+ v4 \|! \|4 K. f: w! x	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger# K) r9 `+ b6 j }
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 3 t* J, H! r8 Q: D+ O! t	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B7 N; O5 o& V- _% ]! N
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS! l' O: c+ k# ~/ Z% m% U" H3 L# S$ w$ g- l	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac! o8 {% p. f* ~7 Y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE2 K2 ~/ b$ g4 H6 f/ V9 ]- F8 O/ B# }	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger 7 I2 k5 \# E. @, X O! j! i3 e3 }
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 6 I% Q! Z6 n* V# `$ [, y	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 7 e c$ O$ a/ p6 D
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited( R: M: S/ V$ L	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX $ H( ~6 E# ?' n/ ?! m( x! X
• 2000 Toyota Tundra ( l; ?; s5 w9 Z! \|1 \|3 ]	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 2 q( b6 q; X" J" C$ J! b( i7 ~# E
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS( C6 d' e# x$ ^0 _$ N6 b	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser % c, \|: V% Z, ~
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE & z* s' k* f: q	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR51 \|% J- z, E4 V: S
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited & L9 t0 ?6 f& z, Q& G$ I	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE) k/ o/ f$ B, E2 J
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner ! V l; G8 N) r; O0 `+ ]9 V v; O	• 1987 Toyota Van DX 2 J/ f f. M1 \|% m
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 4 M R! E! `3 U4 C0 {	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window F' w0 t: q7 @7 c Y) v% l( G
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR55 q& L- Y/ \3 i# I- w	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 2 c1 a0 f* r5 v* L
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE 4 d6 A6 H0 `) Z	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 9 c9 E9 v* y# U
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL! h- p+ _6 K3 q2 `; F% v* T	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX " x @& ~. H7 g, Z
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner ! M6 b6 t" B" @. [. H	• 1987 Toyota Tercel : N* j4 Z6 h4 p7 J$ S$ t; v
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 1 @2 u+ V, G$ e& j: e" x	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX ' d$ k, g; K# m5 k' B3 J' J X. O
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 W1 @7 t, Z5 `9 c" ^* K	• 1987 Toyota Van LE1 x w$ b" w4 p7 G8 A! r0 `
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE2 A9 [' e7 }9 D	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel & K- }7 \| e$ e6 a$ \|
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE * e. F2 m1 w+ ^) C1 \& ~0 I/ i	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX5 H2 t5 W5 i8 k* W7 L
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma $ t2 T% P0 \|: N+ E A	• 1987 Toyota Pickup % P/ R4 P& Q& l" n, j
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS% p: A0 T: i( Z% O9 n9 z	• 1986 Toyota Van LE ! o4 D) T8 p% A
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE! e! W' M& l& R+ I1 j3 B	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 _/ q# C2 V5 S" h
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) c/ M/ k+ \$ @; N	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel5 v4 \5 m* U) L u6 ?) _
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 0 @/ B- N4 ?' Z7 A	• 1986 Toyota Van DX( n* Y6 m5 f5 J2 f* B
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited ! }% G& D- W! X- L	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window" u6 w' S5 N7 Y2 r' R
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE . R% w$ r7 T+ T) o" f7 X, Z	• 1985 Toyota Van $ S9 A" ]. }9 c6 Q# b6 a
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE `6 w* K8 U$ K; ]: S	• 1985 Toyota Van LE G0 [* F8 s0 M0 W4 T$ a, G
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL ! g# I7 S9 k+ E! W! o	• 1985 Toyota Van DX S6 @" `# d9 _ }% X
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE 2 k$ f; L$ \|* E	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser ) q9 @" a) S2 P0 {3 O
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited9 P( B9 V4 w9 t) l7 l0 ^+ q {. L	• 1984 Toyota Van DX 6 B3 e1 i* B; y A1 [
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE7 z! D0 u! A3 E4 G, n9 N	• 1984 Toyota Supra 2 ^6 K2 z1 f- n$ }, h
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE T& z1 i7 b5 U ~8 l	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX " A0 j* _8 w4 D( }+ D' K, B5 B
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE ! u) `8 ^; a" H0 p! o	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser : M/ O/ [/ e7 V. A* g! A+ _- B
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ! U: ]/ W& c& ^; }	• 1984 Toyota Cressida , b. p! a0 X3 ^; K; P
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS $ G* p! @ n7 O2 u" S2 @	• 1984 Toyota Van H8 C3 s. o' i: a. F
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE : E0 y3 P# M1 J3 C	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE , N0 l4 f$ k' w4 c6 a" n
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 5 q6 u6 {5 s4 @- @) R6 A2 r	• 1984 Toyota Van LE( E. K5 x3 w1 U& X# y# @% {
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE7 G" m( z' \|4 K2 j2 U$ p9 w! E% Z	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 5 p6 a/ t$ h! ]6 U
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX) D3 C, I! y6 t, ^2 H2 t5 S7 I7 P	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 # T6 x) P& L3 o! h
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . s9 F9 R1 q& P3 d. X	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX( G7 D4 i/ L+ Q
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE4 {- x0 b) o E" p B0 i+ f	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE # E" D: W8 O4 a; e' ^; G
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE. H- w- d) \|0 I" j) e	• 1983 Toyota Supra , @8 L, j0 V7 M- x6 Z5 t
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma $ @ G; c# V, e( x$ K: ?	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ; W& d0 ~' G( ^" A/ A
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL6 }+ h1 M+ E" W5 \8 ]+ E	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX ) J- B5 g. \8 q. v$ z' D6 r& m
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE * t4 g1 D- T1 ?6 Y	• 1983 Toyota Cressida * g" T4 x* K, C8 ?( W6 W
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . X! N( Y- T9 L$ ?& `	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT* v* x- n @! w# n! Y, S2 t
• 1998 Toyota T-100 6 M. x2 v) d' {: U	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 \|& \|! X" ]( H2 G3 P' O
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited , s5 j3 Q% w" F	• 1982 Toyota Cressida * c& u2 o' c6 j1 ^+ c1 Y( l
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE ; h# V/ X+ T7 g0 @1 W- _7 w; j	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 7 w5 J. W8 M' m6 V
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 " C1 J$ ?4 `* B9 i% y	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 7 c- ^2 d1 n+ @" P# a' h& h
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5. w& ]5 p% j8 ? d. D( Z% A	• 1982 Toyota Tercel ' ^, g- a4 x; t& A
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX # K: T q" m& ]! F/ V$ P	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 g4 n1 w2 m7 K7 R) a
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 9 \7 r6 O N. Q, V e	• 1981 Toyota Tercel . \|( ]# R, x4 ^+ h5 i
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS% ]( A! \' `3 e* d; h	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 . t" r1 h/ q. S# e2 J I: w m
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX % B) z" N5 n! `& C) _8 d% {	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 L6 _$ B" c% h$ b
• 1997 Toyota T-100 * L/ q4 T- I& R$ ~% I/ f7 O8 c	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX* p+ N) L. G0 R( n5 N' ^; L
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited 1 I) K1 U n; f0 G2 O6 Q1 J	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ) j1 v9 X5 l/ a+ t x
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE# x& E$ `$ P, O4 x8 x	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT/ y0 [( T1 R+ V
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR50 t+ U2 y! Y. j% H	• 1980 Toyota Corolla H3 L8 n# X& I: J# z4 S& i0 m9 \: S p
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ' q( A5 i6 [3 Z	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser ) x% i G# \# t& u7 d
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ' \3 F) J) d- k0 \, j+ U+ Q. \	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe8 v6 F, f6 i% V
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL& r- o6 g# ]9 n5 Q	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX, Q$ ^. ?6 o, `) M' c
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE 7 z9 D. O3 [* a$ k4 J	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST& q; ]5 ]7 b' z/ F1 \|! O8 P
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 1 F: ?5 }* e* t8 @" N	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury [/ u: C* B8 \0 ?, O5 L! t
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE - z0 q0 @6 b6 S) V" i% j	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 9 k$ c4 L* K4 o8 d9 B3 f+ }8 [
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE ! n9 {, x% [- F0 P	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5" V+ q- W. X5 d
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 0 {$ y0 G5 a& q% j& M' E; T	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe% \|7 P' S v# } f! i' S
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE $ M8 y0 c) w/ J	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5& T' f8 Y' N) l# }1 o1 [3 z
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ \4 {6 }) l2 M

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ) s% L& D+ \* d

. i1 z5 `# ?8 q9 ~0 g; c如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
( D3 k9 w0 F) I s+ y$ @3 UToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE1 h' F# \9 w: F! N b3 ]% ?0 X
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
: u" C- K/ f; d6 f+ m( F&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
! `* T! Y0 A7 q+ GApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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+ ^' b" r! s! k8 f: v8 K
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。7 S) i3 |$ N" }) r4 ?& b

0 m2 n. j% u A0 L; I7 m2 Z由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
" A: J6 O0 F$ _5 Y1 J
9 a" m- V9 V; v8 O# b9 O3 g6 I1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
5 C4 o% N, T' o1 V2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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