說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 - W0 w6 v& E+ S1 U3 C3 Y- }
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ' |2 N# p N7 d- V& O* t" O
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 , Z2 M* v; L H1 J

+ S, V# x8 u! r2 u8 q. W8 {1 K+ S1 h看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 * r( I6 V+ X' x: q4 Z9 {
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE # s5 g* n" f. r# S	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE ( A1 d* P; q; O
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport9 q$ w0 }+ U0 K* W* L	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE3 t O3 f+ ^* x9 r7 t" \
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE ) o4 V$ ~7 ~, d	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX6 H7 P0 o: ]# n6 V
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 + J3 Y8 W" Y3 h& R	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5- O, Z, X8 c% [
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE, c v( G7 Z( A: F# f	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 7 U9 A+ D/ g' x0 U* L
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE " {9 S0 S* T! _, z	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX . j+ [9 u2 n( n L8 ^0 F3 y4 E+ m
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 3 _( h7 _$ u2 W6 p2 @. \	• 1996 Toyota Corolla & Z' H! \|6 b6 r
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited + l* ?" N. }) b) l& d	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 5 a, [8 u! q1 @& o5 b' n2 z% M! Y) y
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE' f8 z3 [$ O. F: X( L	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE 6 s5 x* y& D% O* T% ~+ N1 ~- P
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE % S9 j/ n% \|9 O* K0 t	• 1996 Toyota T-100 / y$ H1 i" h/ r
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 5 Z) z, z1 z2 T+ ]	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST/ ~2 M8 ^9 r! O; L
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited, E& R6 z& f1 C3 z7 p# I% e9 _	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited) k0 a* \|. u' }$ s" D
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner8 D! n& ^3 d. i0 T9 Q, U	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX# C1 s5 b% S' O n6 L7 s& D$ `
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE* \|. m% f! a$ }- [/ G1 t/ C	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 & z# O" {. G) y; y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE4 k% w9 s/ {3 H' b+ @	• 1996 Toyota Tercel , R8 n) I ~2 Z7 l# N
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ' j9 V$ h8 e6 d& F" Q' z	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 2 S+ L V2 }/ a
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 1 Y+ i+ K* R; r7 f0 d; I	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT : B6 `2 q- I c/ P, `
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS* z+ H8 f0 z! c# G5 s	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 2 N" @) [- F% P) Y8 u
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL% B8 E% s- W w	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner % h) }0 ^. g" c% t/ s/ _
• 2006 Toyota Prius 8 r/ K/ l) u2 l	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX7 b% ^1 A; k3 G8 w
• 2006 Toyota Camry 2 \3 C5 a4 x. G$ X4 I" x	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 0 V6 e: _4 I4 V5 p1 n! z2 B
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 9 L" J8 D1 l: {' M) E8 a' l	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE) ?2 P4 y. q5 \|! U6 i' a! a4 I
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma " Y* F3 Q2 r8 ~( m3 G9 x	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE / T1 G9 R3 L3 J7 \8 F
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 6 S8 z9 \4 w/ `/ _	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton3 i1 {9 R* o( x$ u
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited ( r0 p9 R: E" P2 H# Y- K	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR53 V: A3 ^6 X8 D0 r5 J/ a1 B$ r
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 0 g3 C1 n# L5 T3 @	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5; n" h( S+ v( d5 w1 h4 K/ u7 h/ n, V
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 6 c8 f- \|* v' P/ x	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX- j- A, v9 \0 y4 a
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S ( H T+ ?6 f5 r: \2 S	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX% {) H1 A- o4 S7 o7 C3 G5 p
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited! q, z# t9 k" v9 n	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5" ^9 L9 A5 I) V
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE* l6 C( X8 m9 Z/ x8 R" b3 ?. }	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 2 V1 v/ \|5 g5 }! n& ?" V
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ; S5 Y4 l8 z* Z- o2 c5 ]4 M	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 3 V+ U; f1 F, L3 g
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner9 \8 F" w6 _3 M8 q' Z" n8 j" o	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX: M( O, u, Y) U
• 2005 Toyota Tundra % g O3 c9 \|( g	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 1 f4 W: A5 ?' c/ [. e, \|
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS: N: k5 ^( c% t1 Z C) X6 _! P3 U	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX / H5 v. R8 v9 R, E6 w- c* K. a
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 % e5 I) p- a7 i. z$ J; N3 d# \|% l	• 1995 Toyota T-100 " W% h# {% }4 @, C# n% m+ r
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited ' M; O) X9 \9 V/ d* A" e$ J	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma P% J" X( k' a( i1 ~) \|8 X* }% `
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL . V2 b7 N9 S- o. }9 s	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE / L5 x' @, { G
• 2005 Toyota Camry 5 K6 W2 R0 ~7 \|* c8 E; c	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR55 @' o4 \|8 U! n; D3 [0 ]- E
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring 3 x8 W9 w8 c5 H; T	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX+ G, j4 C9 `! Y* `, W3 [3 C
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 8 b7 Q/ x9 ?1 f& r	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX6 H: U/ s$ f0 ~& x
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE' F5 H- s/ M9 m1 R1 ~+ x+ b0 a	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX $ A$ ^0 \|( r% E! J
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited p3 D! B3 [8 o. i: b5 R, W" E	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5% H. }. J! j/ I+ p" \| D8 W
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 6 _0 Q! e" P U4 m2 [ T	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 4 R- b/ G' B7 e$ k' }
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S7 y1 ]( e2 F3 g6 i3 [8 n& \|8 p' B	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE : r! G: P0 A0 u6 z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE* q( S; s( a0 ?7 u& [' U6 z- {1 ~8 Z ~	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE : G6 Q& {- A s
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited 3 k" G& ]9 n" B T6 U L& Z7 c	• 1994 Toyota T-100 # P, J6 t; ?. j" t
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5& _! ]. N, [1 {" w! H) g0 z' u	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 9 Z3 B8 w! K. A5 v5 \|( P& h! ?
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 2 C, N5 `- ~' ~! \|. h' p8 x	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE: X: u! d- \' C( P7 C* g* e
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 9 X6 p n$ ]$ N& e l6 R; W	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX% ]9 D5 I' p: z" l6 N1 z1 o! `
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS . }4 t2 e3 w( [8 e	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5* X! U% o# }9 v. W6 _
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE5 X9 p& V: J& P$ L+ p	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE : \9 ]* c6 H; R1 q' W; ^9 t
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE0 E& w& ?- E' f7 V3 T9 y	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 1 l8 D; a& D1 a6 K# k
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited2 e" l: O/ K# M	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton2 ]8 N* b' R* f3 `, f( \* x9 Q( `
• 2005 Toyota Highlander & J& q, e7 \; X	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE ) c3 y% }3 U! K/ q9 K% \|+ v
• 2005 Toyota Prius 2 ^8 }5 u! J: G1 Q2 i" y) g	• 1993 Toyota Corolla - o R- w Y1 W3 M/ S
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE ; R8 g0 N' t1 F+ z2 P	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton 9 S4 [# B( Z" I8 D" f1 R6 H9 h
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE I" m* ~# S/ w% N! U' D' u" ^	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4 B0 B( V" d. j. t% }
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited # R. _4 c/ u; \|! N5 x8 s1 }8 n	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX . G5 m- G, c; N- f0 ~6 y* W
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR53 y- H1 y& D$ {9 x% C	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX " a& V8 n. q% K! W9 D# J6 v% Y* f
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE7 c; t; V3 ]# a5 b	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX * ], o( j2 f" r' y% b3 B# ]
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE4 J- z% q5 }' U% E k5 }( L4 Z	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 p% N+ K- M- `8 q/ c1 F
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE 7 N3 T$ ~- c6 i4 R& \|* t; i	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ' r9 I0 i7 g) l- ]0 a4 V0 b6 I
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE& m6 A' U9 F2 \|) R	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE ' J* U& X4 K ]; X# r8 C- X
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited t- D# W F+ N# }! B y. @	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 5 o b$ n8 F4 N: Q e) o
• 2004 Toyota Prius 4 h, U$ h, L! g' T' \8 z# Y	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE* I8 F& b! B# D6 ~% t
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 6 R; B. v: f8 A Q. V; V/ s4 D; R	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE ! e$ J* m% ?* V5 a1 S8 k M5 M
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 2 X) X7 }3 y! E- Y5 S8 U7 s3 q3 V/ z	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 - n' `( ?! U' p9 l( L5 P5 a# D" U8 f
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE$ l0 C6 X" W8 f% }# X6 ?	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR55 @( p7 X& f9 t/ l! {7 v) m
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited. v" Q" [7 [1 k/ p. {	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE " S/ j% i( l- e
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited * W8 s. z9 B( s$ {3 L) W	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE$ _( H. d" e4 \|6 G
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE k1 K" A0 @. \|. \|$ }; a	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX+ q+ U3 l& O" p* ^- S7 \|
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE$ z" ?6 T- J/ N6 f	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE1 `' u% E( j8 z& f
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 0 ~+ U6 b1 F8 F	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac. ?) ?) n. t' t/ U. I- r
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited$ Y: W; A+ @- t	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 9 p' ~* \. u m* z" x
• 2004 Toyota Highlander " L& E5 a h, \3 b0 Z( F: [$ h	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 7 N( `0 }" T8 z' e. _8 s: K
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner f1 l5 B7 Q r$ k h6 n/ v	• 1992 Toyota Corolla ' W# Z; p% c$ V/ _) b u
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S . _6 M1 @2 G. t! l8 ]	• 1992 Toyota MR2 ( i* E; i4 t5 y1 a0 p
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . V* I3 E% i4 ~' v* Q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 2 }2 _9 \|7 D$ u- N6 y' o5 u
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5! c5 ~9 B: \|, F9 D	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX7 s" a* S+ w' v
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS) O2 y, }2 a5 [' K- H, {	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac & i3 ^- \|7 C% t+ Q% x/ M) D1 Y
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner : C2 o, [9 P) r' D' B, k/ r7 _! Z; c. E	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 d J2 S* c- q" j! Y0 u: k2 B
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S ' T4 N7 C1 d# ^5 g	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX , C7 P1 i L$ o6 k
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited6 v$ Q# N0 {' a8 {	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5# F: M& }* q: f: k, O
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner - T. D, U3 N3 J	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser & G9 p( Z3 k& \5 A6 \|" H% @
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof2 \|; f; s4 c! z5 A+ w7 V j
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited ! A! _ H- G1 H4 d# L	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE % l# Y+ P* K( n- O& c8 y
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 1 X: z0 n, s7 t$ A+ J/ j% Q7 K	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; s1 K R- u/ \|
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT( c2 R8 X* Y0 h+ f) S( Q	• 1991 Toyota Camry " G- j1 u" [3 t9 \
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE; j" U, x) A- X	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ( j p1 h' g: X2 C* q4 R$ [8 u
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 4 J8 I1 b2 R! Z% o	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 9 \|. \|% G5 G- K1 X) C! L/ ?3 s/ z
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma : u/ A( O; s% w Z0 }2 y	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX/ \& B4 B% g" K7 D# K6 r9 s2 c
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 5 I! {" A1 F K- c	• 1991 Toyota MR2 / a/ s- K" d- G+ A
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE* M% J* I4 Z" T! A/ \7 E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 2 b& v/ j- ` F- [+ X( E
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited0 o! D6 c- }9 x1 p' m5 h$ F	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX4 {1 E: T! q, n
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE/ i. W) B# V; R' t9 B! h8 `3 V	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac( o& v- l* z' p7 @) q3 r' h
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ; ~1 m1 c1 w6 i$ u	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 1 G- ] T6 Y1 z
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE# H% {6 [7 r" Q' c* U	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 5 s) d I, j# O, X! F) ]
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE3 a9 V: q% H, }+ a9 g5 V	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX5 z7 b% x% Q, J1 X Y! W+ K
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited . s9 b( s! m# [6 X, X# V	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE & x. \/ f6 j k ?4 V! G) q
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited% c a7 v" K9 @% a, w/ E1 V	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 2 F$ h- B/ W3 S- o2 N+ h& Y( Q) [
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited& }3 u6 a8 [3 C @8 n) \|	• 1990 Toyota Pickup % M8 G, S3 X2 Q E) C
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 1 a9 W ~# P1 l0 O \! \ [	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE8 z( s0 I. V. Z: \4 T, T" Y
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE . ?7 }; w- H' `' Z3 f" t	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR53 M) O# g5 c" ]! s9 ]
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 8 b" [+ V; k& F. K7 O	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ4 B* e }1 y% S5 w, A# a: R" p
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE% i" K0 d" G2 Y6 N( {6 a	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 4 I# Q3 v+ {4 u& S; L
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT + b! ^4 @8 \|* X	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 5 E v2 f" L5 r9 F
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner4 \|8 {3 u1 ?& W" ? V	• 1990 Toyota Camry 0 F* _7 a. G4 S/ E# T4 {8 l
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S+ M+ h7 t- K7 V( N	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST/ s; \" H6 P2 N9 D/ p* S: q: b
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 8 f7 \|% g8 W' e3 a2 Y ]	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX# _$ N' Z; F x- \|0 A
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ' G& l( f, q: v9 n2 V. M! K	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX9 i# t( @. {( L1 t: S/ a
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5: B5 v, z) e# E4 Z	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5# @/ q( O9 T3 a% k! Q* N/ z
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5! L/ q C: B% v	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS ! [4 ]. B w& z3 e( _
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 7 A2 v6 a* c; {5 n1 O5 `3 v	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 \% F" w0 }) U9 h5 e; P
• 2002 Toyota Prius * X: ~7 f3 M$ r7 L	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton! [& R( X+ `: Z- J! F
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR53 k! M, B& D% ^2 m0 c4 [	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX; L7 A4 c; i: G, W4 L! ]: I9 p' ]
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS- @4 s. Q- h# L; \* B, j" J	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac# B; w7 L, s+ t
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE/ s) v9 r+ J, Y) Z7 G" `	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac ; M3 C3 C N9 v
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma / e3 A, C8 t0 l# M2 G	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 3 z4 w9 Y! G0 g: b& R
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 3 [, \|$ K; s' \9 T, r	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- o9 v8 c' K8 q, \
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE & J3 ?$ Q3 w; u% q9 ~& [0 a	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 4 n O+ P# F7 T) J- o
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE / I% w/ ~# i6 E; A	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 6 a) T. i* ]3 E3 N- l0 u& S, x3 Q
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL ; @7 r2 ^9 g: m3 R" x3 {	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base ( `3 q. {6 K/ W
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited . z. ^8 P0 V8 D3 K( [* `" a7 ^	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac $ y$ }' w% h# A
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT ( t1 b. Z! T8 s) _" @" P$ y2 T/ U	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ' J+ v5 v8 y. g6 ^% w
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 6 }4 e8 G; N* D# C3 M	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE . e& J! D$ n" v& h
• 2001 Toyota Prius % N q1 N. c# Z$ P/ r6 v% r	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX: O7 m& d$ _4 U) {- i8 ]
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 6 G5 q6 [* X5 d) u	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, U2 z' C0 V0 N6 v) m/ A) k
• 2001 Toyota Tundra ' s8 K& ~" R% J o) i. r	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger5 O' y; Y2 C. @
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE* O" w8 w$ g6 A9 a- S	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX $ r( P8 P+ j: \8 \8 d
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited1 `# i4 g. E( e" m: ?. ^; r# Z	• 1989 Toyota Camry " C1 Z* p9 }, d/ n
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 a4 V5 [& p, }8 H/ g1 d	• 1989 Toyota Tercel # V5 d! k% G7 l0 g3 @/ U
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE$ ~4 d" Z: E- c5 r! f/ I% }( [6 _	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX: T; G/ d# x% f7 Q4 j# H
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE3 U+ L& h# s1 }8 \% O" j$ `	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 5 i3 Y6 D3 p. w8 ^5 y3 ]& ^; o
• 2001 Toyota ECHO B0 O6 M, ^7 I5 s) H) `	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR53 U# D* m% l& o3 n) x6 T; h/ \& G1 `/ x
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS j! Q$ D7 k8 g H; T c	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger& C5 n/ R C! u$ J8 [
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE # P- Z- k2 @7 Q# a	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ - {6 r7 Y4 F. {0 `
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 F- p4 V9 Z8 G) D1 y- ?	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel# h, d/ U2 e* P$ _1 f
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner / h+ D! o% p( ?5 u2 a M% S; a	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX * h) e J9 s0 D+ {* _
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS" E3 m3 l8 S+ s* d" n. ^- d	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 2 m R5 u) b; E, `
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S6 m- q* Y2 E: A/ I" F! h) Z	• 1988 Toyota Camry 2 D0 z- `, x, h8 l3 R
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner! @5 O1 {: J8 p9 v: t/ f/ X	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 8 X2 a Y) T. Q! y ^/ U
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5" ]% ^6 ]/ E8 W3 S2 U	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger+ o" u& @% @0 e7 o
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE" D& T" `) C# N$ ^	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX 3 C6 ? }3 ^1 \3 v, `8 v
• 2001 Toyota Highlander $ {6 u, p$ T( a/ N6 ]! i" \|2 A	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 {( X Q3 X. W4 d" k
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited , Z% W1 x! B; `6 m	• 1988 Toyota Van DX) T/ O6 j* N7 ?3 ]& E4 w3 E0 z
• 2000 Toyota ECHO * ^( j' Y, f* W, `' k. N	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 0 d# z1 r) i! L+ M
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma ) d \& ^. [) L/ C	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 2 r* q! _$ e; ~
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT R. J% S7 k5 r6 U1 s! y% B# o	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE& r; ?1 g! X0 \0 l/ V) Y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE9 z6 H8 R0 }' E% f& a	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window; m& C( w' m1 k4 @
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 % l$ l# e7 \, K# I" q9 p	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton- K5 ]7 k5 V7 Q# ^; a
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 l# o* x, L( c( w, A% ]$ l; q% F9 q	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser * F5 J0 y# p' ]0 e: v, N! t' N
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5& U0 e W' \. p: P9 E	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 y* o2 C9 ^+ I
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 8 c0 @. C5 B2 t: c6 I+ x	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 6 k: g5 H! J9 K
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE" F }" K9 ]! t! s0 s0 N, n+ P	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B7 r. \|6 A2 }! O0 A
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS3 ]6 `( c( y4 q4 c. F( G# d( v	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac4 f C& c7 `% z
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 1 J& T2 q4 x& E	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger & b* w. p5 g* f1 i$ b, K
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara * q7 B; u N1 {	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR56 C, g9 E/ q. e m+ a& p
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited" \. c" A$ v" l& U, d- B0 }: C	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX. M' n; A$ a9 M, Z ^+ p/ G
• 2000 Toyota Tundra 8 ?' t4 k5 }- G	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 8 q2 a$ N. ^/ [& f
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS% A7 l/ a- c; G* ]: O( r: Q1 n	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 _- G9 C% u1 S
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE ) o" ?3 F4 _) V& t5 i	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 A% [4 M9 ?3 d
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited , h9 _6 i5 Y3 D9 z! v	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE / h# T7 s6 V) ?% z
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 8 U" G' G' x% A& @5 k& z5 B' h. {	• 1987 Toyota Van DX $ f6 n# e- f* N$ r* Q3 ?
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE . @: A. r% d8 p3 k! @! X	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window. L/ @; k$ G; Y( D: a
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5- S* ?- S6 E2 ~% y, W. z	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 9 U) p; g) A& f B) w4 D
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE ( N1 J' O; a) }4 o	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ t& D* p9 [/ s! o& X+ t3 I6 J
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL' i! c4 }# l2 v: E& w% T	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX( A2 t- e% j7 \) P o/ M
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 5 y; e9 l& \|# L. o9 N, O3 Y' [	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ; W/ f! ^6 ~/ K1 O, [
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE8 V2 z0 Z1 \|) R	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX + ~& Y: Q% b% G' S! m( s7 ~
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5& @( h! Y i$ c; d( H	• 1987 Toyota Van LE @; E$ Q) }6 @& ?0 e, m7 r
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE8 l( h+ _& M' A2 A	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel # J+ P$ G* n. o- S1 A
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE4 c$ [0 m# V$ w- @9 L9 F; G+ B9 c	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX # d5 Y7 Q* W9 t8 q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 7 N* N9 @: I* C4 Q" X; z	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 7 I9 j3 k3 W r4 v
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS 5 ~, S1 n o0 @, ~# p/ L: {	• 1986 Toyota Van LE 9 h9 \/ b; @" @% Q) H* p
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE4 t: q5 Y& o+ k& A! y/ q# v$ A9 ~2 z	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser # p! H* F. H: H C) ]- H" a0 v s+ `
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner P4 c/ \|3 z6 J: y$ [	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel7 N1 f; ?' q0 e4 z1 V* _8 \|
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 - n0 p! r6 ?( g0 F	• 1986 Toyota Van DX ; ]1 E9 l0 J5 A1 s) k
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited4 M% P% @$ i c	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window5 t8 `- D( @, x' X* E
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 4 Y$ q& \/ E9 \|2 v	• 1985 Toyota Van 8 Q$ L2 B4 K2 F4 @, A0 l7 e' O
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE) z4 l( o+ p8 w# M4 _; r6 `	• 1985 Toyota Van LE3 ]" V8 \0 V* f
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL# F- n) P2 V4 g) B! T" t	• 1985 Toyota Van DX / X% N0 \# R+ ~; S8 E
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE5 n; h8 N' v4 M1 i: @' Z	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 Y5 `- F( N+ `* _8 b, K x( u
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 7 w$ n4 X9 h; \) [$ ~	• 1984 Toyota Van DX% {6 Y& e7 U/ l8 o2 y
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE5 h. k+ p `+ `# Z! q	• 1984 Toyota Supra 1 ]/ P+ o6 d) u4 A2 C4 j3 Z8 T' N
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX , ~8 d0 q5 R+ s0 F3 l
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE+ m5 Z+ A" N" `* X; x9 _	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser : k" a3 i: ^5 L" V7 t
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited+ L# f( O5 }7 n4 N5 S' R! K6 y2 m	• 1984 Toyota Cressida * n( W Y6 ?- p6 i3 }
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS. H2 [ f+ M- ^' D; K. s" \|: f	• 1984 Toyota Van ; K/ i7 J* X: p5 n+ I" h% B4 A) \|
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE5 m! h, Y; [: x9 U+ ]	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE) Y' e- b/ A2 E: {6 V1 d1 N* i2 d
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner # O3 Y6 Q, Z% O5 Z; E	• 1984 Toyota Van LE( Z) l: z/ ]6 e2 G2 z I! }) \
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE + _4 c$ v; O6 M	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 9 Z4 ]0 N7 z* O- o9 M
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 6 r/ M9 c- O: ]' E" H1 ?	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5: _' X! n& O+ F2 b p' Y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR59 R$ c+ q( d, y5 O9 [* g+ U	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX 6 y! }3 q/ Z# D9 E$ s+ ?% o# w
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE ' z9 Q/ w( T ~1 N	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE2 ^8 \7 q# @& D
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE - u. l$ t$ V. \|6 N. i# p	• 1983 Toyota Supra C. \|3 R e8 w) t
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 5 c8 a; V9 k! M5 {7 p6 b0 p	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 \|6 c0 j+ O6 q9 M8 `) E6 Q. H* E
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL & W6 A1 Q: k* ~; q: x o0 w' X	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX * l4 z: l( _* M. s% m# p
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE6 c# ]% U/ ~, }0 @7 W1 a) w	• 1983 Toyota Cressida / ^* u; P- K5 J V
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 5 e/ j/ A7 m$ t, z( T/ g+ ^	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 5 i6 U/ ^& j0 E, i5 M6 } `9 m
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ! K5 z2 @5 _1 _	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 J& S# z& @+ s: {
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited4 }2 T$ N7 E( `	• 1982 Toyota Cressida ; J, S1 m* ?( a8 K( s2 p/ d
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE( S$ D7 P. F- y; \|' s	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX! B% D: l3 h# j. J1 l* l: ~
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 # L2 P: q& O$ @2 Y4 e' `	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST ) v( G- l) w6 k( _. n R3 K. ]
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR51 D$ H( L& d3 s; f6 x! f* @# G	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 8 D, G0 Z. H( H
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX& i8 \* N8 f0 m- {- u+ r	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 $ V5 L2 \|) i# n7 z/ R/ A6 y
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma * e! g+ x. X4 w	• 1981 Toyota Tercel + I/ U6 Q. f: t# a& L
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS ; F* x% r6 F; L# E9 r6 m% w	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR56 c% X* C, {0 n, _1 @
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 4 I1 z4 @. [# \|5 [2 }# P	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 i9 H1 E& j* J
• 1997 Toyota T-100 " }; F& I8 j* V) U5 X. g	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX5 r u. s' ^" j. p; A* G
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited 2 E* ^- a3 j; ]	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 3 t7 ^) r, Z) E4 o! s6 f; p/ b
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE! z) p$ B1 ` R; c# V4 U	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT5 [- U0 ~ E t; O+ Q+ }2 v
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5$ J$ u9 _- a( n9 [$ d8 W# q5 J$ N	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 7 Z* x/ Y+ y5 v, z2 n
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ' V \|0 w, c- c# y' @	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser * h' W- R* R8 x; `2 E4 e- L# Q
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5$ z* G# F4 b, v) ]" Q0 u1 [9 ?	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe " A$ l# @& V4 R; h( C2 Y% W* c3 q
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL) X( d# ]& p# t	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX . [+ g- ]4 G' r3 y0 }5 u1 t
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE + V3 `' D! M4 ^2 {4 ~	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST: T5 d* y8 Q- x: v5 Q( j8 T
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 0 ]5 f& \5 U7 [	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury9 g' R$ i6 [% X9 [* [% c; }
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE0 ~2 I& q5 x) v. x; M' Q8 T% a! e	• 1980 Toyota Tercel - V& u) d+ c7 v+ h! w/ c2 }
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 4 k+ ^3 R: N1 X	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR53 q4 \. ]2 k! Q/ a" y& z, p
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX8 z( v3 }8 h [* `. Y; R$ o9 n	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe# p) e# Q+ w$ E, P" n$ U# `
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE% B6 a0 S) y* M% l, C+ [	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 5 h. r, c+ e6 P) E/ y, n0 M
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5+ e3 w6 f- I: Q% R

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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$ [0 Q/ I* T3 T; i如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
" o% R" n, K4 nToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
7 z" b* Q) [: m( R• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
! x" U5 A0 `4 M&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
5 ]' D: N! A* h3 L: J4 ]April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 4 }. E; t3 L9 d8 `. N( A0 T0 [

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- ~( _# N2 m2 z, S: M' Z佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
5 X, M0 G( I% {3 u3 O" P1 w4 f# M1 O/ Z) R: O
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
) @5 i, l0 \6 s: h
/ h: G+ ?. y9 Y; s0 f2 c- ?0 s1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
0 p5 K6 j& d2 T9 v8 b2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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