說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
7 W6 n* d: }/ R8 E, r! E% T学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 + _' D% F& J: m* K
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
+ W/ B$ q1 _ ~3 E. w3 E楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 * R* x1 h' r' n/ Y* k# ]$ m: g6 Z4 r
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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! w7 a) |6 O" j不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE2 ?& X/ U$ M- u* k	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE / X# ^/ O9 i. A; U
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport ' f" ~7 y( p- T4 W' T0 i	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE# \1 \" ^* z3 L, ^2 Z! h. u
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE 4 I: z7 Y: K: \|- p4 z3 }	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX) b* f3 Q# l9 Y% Q# [
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ! k1 y2 n! J% _	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . E; ^9 t B8 `/ z0 D4 I! t
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE* n/ l4 l) W% N* Y* _% {	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 3 ~& I: w1 t5 F- u) q% o* b
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE" U9 M1 \|0 } `3 `9 R1 k5 a# O	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX - i9 z8 ]9 G5 y: N p% I8 p0 q& P
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid # J5 D% C1 e1 Z1 K	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ( U4 ]; z# ?2 V9 G! O% j5 {1 P
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited: Y9 G5 j: p0 U0 M Y5 n( ~	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4 ?% w7 e R( V
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE5 G! O6 q- a# u F [. N+ c2 t	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE $ s" P% S. V5 }* k. M" P @
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE- }" b; `; D2 K	• 1996 Toyota T-100 6 g9 j/ ]3 [. m( d$ e8 v* N
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE. _! M2 v( K) d/ u	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST! H/ ~ T4 U' W; e2 M# Y& S+ \
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 2 i. C; Y8 t( m, ]. S! J& I	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited3 R# W" V% p. i% O, w# {
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " [: d' y1 ~/ U! `4 g% O	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX 0 u- T) `3 v0 y3 s: I( \|- f: [) S
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 7 z. p5 C, g# g	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR51 i V, k! d. Y3 F5 x! j7 ^& v0 h
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 3 e$ b* \|' w) N	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 0 I4 U) O o7 y" q; k% ]. N3 Z
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 " R8 b+ t# X D	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX" i4 i1 q3 D5 L5 E
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 6 S& T0 `: a* ~/ C6 O5 q	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT# j' F0 ?$ }. c/ F, ~
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS& i. O3 Z9 I7 X3 ^	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma / f+ F( T( V% s: L. I' K2 S
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL ' g+ y1 r2 D0 [0 @* l	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner - w% `, q9 L3 ]+ g! M B
• 2006 Toyota Prius , s! E+ z k- j% Y; E' Y" F	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 2 R" v* q: \|! w, \|) N
• 2006 Toyota Camry # x! t5 }4 E- r! @* w	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 1 I% x# o: }+ B1 ^0 T5 R% }% o0 y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring I+ B: P1 e, k3 \|" z0 U) G+ r3 i" l	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE ! M4 D' K, f. G' V7 p
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 4 g5 w4 L5 j5 g; v$ R+ F	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE5 T6 j [) B5 [2 d
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 7 M$ P) ]1 t* T; D	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton7 b$ J& v' N/ x% ^
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited8 u9 G; j" P* t/ M; {5 e	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 [% u& p2 m4 i4 r
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner6 ^. @. i- i5 Z; B: u	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 9 B8 p& z" ^3 F& s$ M5 \
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR56 Z7 z( p- `5 E- _; Y0 n, b	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX' i% ^4 W+ \| {7 C( o; R( M6 K
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S* N! B( I4 A1 y E( k. `6 v	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX ( u0 t" Z. R/ G" i$ s# `$ L
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited : B' X/ \|7 w1 O7 B	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5* T. @6 i4 ]5 d! J& `' G/ v
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE4 \0 A' @: S( T+ V' T: x	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 5 I: S: ~5 _$ Y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS , o b4 b& _- z7 ]( c& u# }	• 1995 Toyota Corolla # S5 n: }; p+ \8 W5 o( d" T2 r
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner3 _* }7 O8 F% n. Q+ q	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX+ K. e4 A/ \! Z: N
• 2005 Toyota Tundra . T& G5 q2 \* y7 U2 n	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE# E, o7 `0 v4 k6 t3 j$ ]
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS! t' e# c0 x' M0 z6 s9 S+ \|	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX6 ]# q; v$ L& ~) J* @& `5 ?0 x
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5, e7 i( S! f2 W	• 1995 Toyota T-100 , {8 E1 ~7 A. m
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited $ E8 P! n9 r8 s5 r	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma ( b5 q2 Y t6 b D$ o& l
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 3 f8 v O. o: B	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE1 v! l3 M% B1 u/ p& ?4 I) e( D
• 2005 Toyota Camry ' _2 u* g) ?1 u% }. ?% V	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 ( V; l$ Q; v7 r& x3 b m7 m/ a5 }
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring/ }0 B) X% M$ r* _- h	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX ) v) K" g. h% ?; Y% V9 K6 e
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE$ E1 B6 L5 @8 c+ ~6 M8 G! @	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX8 H ~2 J( d5 w+ q2 v, _5 j
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE4 m* Y# H) K# a8 G1 G- m	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX% ~+ S3 \; I* t( j
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited+ n! ]& j' {2 S! [	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5: l- N* X# {$ z$ X* O
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 7 ]' a% [/ q( k* a	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ( g; R; [) N) F
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S1 \|' h) q; A$ Y; L6 ^/ v3 M0 @	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE4 b$ C, s, z0 w) s0 C
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE / m. B1 ~" V W( Z	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 0 M3 M4 S. _1 t# c! T
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 z Q8 N7 D7 J2 ?; u9 r; G	• 1994 Toyota T-100 ' H2 r( ?3 I8 Z7 ^
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 # W/ i, q. f5 k( l. }	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR54 t8 E% g0 E4 t7 E
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 6 J$ L2 I/ e$ Y	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE # g- Q& Z5 B J9 h" `5 g- C3 a
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 ; C$ v6 \|) ?' P1 o	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX 7 P# f2 j3 U" A# D- r) \
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS! \: e/ I* U( O& O	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 , _1 F$ C7 ^3 D
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE % p0 B1 Y0 s& o5 [9 u U	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE . ^) r. \|. u) u
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE7 }3 G; [; \|: J, c6 K: r	• 1994 Toyota Corolla * Q0 \|- c2 ?# q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited% u& j4 m; v1 L' \|/ ^7 f$ t	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton l. i, q8 }( l" z, q5 T
• 2005 Toyota Highlander ; ]' S( ^7 T8 v1 Y& }/ z# @" P& k	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE / S; R: S! ~3 T0 H) N
• 2005 Toyota Prius $ t: \4 T) L' I& @" W	• 1993 Toyota Corolla " J) b3 c' C# R3 T) P
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE " Y* F% x; Q) d/ _	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton7 V# \|" i+ o0 A7 d! H
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE o9 m8 x. i/ u& e; G	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : }" F5 X; f, {* x7 \% O" Q
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited. m% {! K9 C; `) r6 y	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX $ y0 N" o6 X, \|3 ?
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5# c2 R% _: ]3 _# r, D3 i# c8 M- o" W	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX- A' X6 Z* C6 w
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE, a5 c& f7 r; \|	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX. h' J7 h+ G1 J' S2 F
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE& f4 s( [" h$ j2 e* H' h/ K	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 {- F* X6 M& H/ U7 i2 q* _0 j
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE / _6 C* [& q+ j$ D5 a( `	• 1993 Toyota T-100 % ?" w, N% _ L$ w: P
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE ( ?% [7 E r, y	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE 8 O- i+ y+ t1 q2 u2 E
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited - t @) I0 v( R1 E- a	• 1993 Toyota Pickup & ~3 d2 e3 W8 d0 T9 [& \|
• 2004 Toyota Prius ( M) L' A- `, e6 p! S3 i& O	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE4 B7 E$ d# K- x' s
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma * V3 Y5 B" @" P) D	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE . w! \3 z+ [( t# t) r5 L/ F
• 2004 Toyota Tundra " r0 ?/ ~) }, r% ]& P0 c	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 ~' i2 x! `/ p& p. v: t/ i
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE0 m% c+ h' w' h+ {! v T	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5" Q5 X6 x/ L2 J3 @0 } Y
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited/ E3 B! u7 f, U' k1 u+ q2 j	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE & q7 i% J- N/ \|5 b
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited/ c8 @' c) U8 s5 l1 u ]/ J	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE, s+ e% q% ?8 d* i% J
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE& G- x" x, t+ c0 ~9 \8 F	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX! `9 \|2 {3 }, V4 a' R- j; d* g
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE - f4 ?! ^% ]8 c5 u7 c+ \: Y. k% ^	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE* K. r' E) {' p+ a
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE " r* [# X9 q9 y5 L# G/ {! {/ f	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac0 o- C2 Z) i5 J! D% C/ N- W) c
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited - w" ]& r4 U0 W: X. M	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton: j- ~7 e2 ?+ [ h$ g- I' w
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 7 M1 M ^* F2 i B+ F& x( k. v) Z	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE% w! s. {& I. w
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 5 L( I9 n) C# s: S6 m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla . F+ _6 E7 p \|: `$ b# I5 S
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S- d* J% c4 D1 J3 c	• 1992 Toyota MR2 . u( X( g& F' \|1 Y
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner7 n. L4 \; j s4 q8 K( e( L1 K: k* }	• 1992 Toyota Pickup & ]% t; e& o4 b( j% s \
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5+ K; i# p+ F# @- [	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX& h' n' \|& L b) k$ i" I+ h
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 7 I5 b9 T+ f! Y& u0 X	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac 7 k1 ?' R) m* F) C; G
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner+ z5 e2 y2 X% J) Y: f- J J	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR55 G- J4 M7 V$ {( }8 }: q& q) J
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S* w& Z' S" m6 L) \/ b; ]	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX, e6 R/ Z7 r" _
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited * c) L! y/ A5 E6 E6 B	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5 O( I$ Q9 { S+ Q: l. T2 g# c
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ R- b: k/ p* Z	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser , F8 p% q i6 D; A" G# I
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5( v4 f ~7 A/ h% \	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof0 c5 q. D9 `6 L3 ^- [! }" d
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited " w/ M' e) f" D# @; [$ J! H	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE ' B! g3 I% y M# A" I9 q0 ^
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE' ?& p/ ^( F- Z% T$ B7 Q	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5. q5 j. q& e* Z
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT & \$ z" U) K! l" z	• 1991 Toyota Camry ) n; f6 k# Q, [
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 9 z P' E0 x. D, ]	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ( P6 b# s9 D; y
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 7 Q q, V# x) O0 J% \	• 1991 Toyota Pickup $ X! h9 v# \|0 H2 u0 a. G# R1 z2 h. v
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 3 U! A- e' _& a3 C2 G$ ^4 H	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX/ C1 O1 E0 \# a3 J+ Y
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ) N4 O8 e3 [2 Z( y% o0 q9 v	• 1991 Toyota MR2 7 W- w3 C) ~* x m
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 8 d+ D, `" [# K	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5- `2 C; I& o* r4 F* \5 ?3 z2 T
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited % Q$ k/ G+ L$ `' o1 b* v6 {% B	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX# T! V& i, i5 x2 b
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE+ A6 H0 [2 G% Z! x6 R9 i. l+ n. m	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac+ u- ^, Y& ]4 O5 t
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5! T( q1 z! C- q	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % l! q( M1 D, S+ W2 y' \|1 `9 I
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE X, O, \* W, L2 y, W	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof : B, F7 L R) ~; m, L* @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE / r9 b3 R1 w7 o- J; u2 N" ?3 C	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX' ]4 r. I: h0 n% o8 ?4 h
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited 1 U) M' B1 G; M3 B1 B	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE8 S* E7 n0 d7 C% t- y2 d
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited5 [! R' p& T6 y$ u$ u4 R& k/ z8 s" ^	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton & r( K5 E- A) e: j' O; [
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited; x( Y9 `1 t; M7 b9 {	• 1990 Toyota Pickup ( l5 m9 f- U. P
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ) w9 S, ?5 g. k( R" L	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE 7 [ x2 l5 {0 p1 \+ t- i3 _
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE5 z3 [$ n8 t7 B f3 }	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5% ]: U1 o/ X2 t* ?7 [
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited # H4 R# j, F1 O2 A( {/ [1 R- c	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ8 Z: D* m/ u# R$ X& ]2 P) n
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE ) Z+ K3 _" ^: W& \|, r# m	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT, N: c5 p/ J4 Q, B" d) \
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT7 \% t2 M8 G/ I: U5 r	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base( ]* `" o' N: R2 {- `) S. j7 c
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner , i- W% U3 {5 o# d	• 1990 Toyota Camry 0 f+ B1 I! j7 n/ F( W: M6 p- e
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S* D( Y& G; f5 j9 _: ~	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST+ l1 c" @$ p0 I. \2 g7 P. C
• 2002 Toyota Highlander - [6 t6 R! ^* B	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX + x; q8 m* O6 z, b6 g( E
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ }% X/ m* ]! b( }$ o6 ]! }	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX- g8 i- X) N( `/ D* b
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5/ A$ ?& l5 ^6 Q& \0 B	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR57 A- y9 n; y4 E+ J: {# {& k: g
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / l2 o$ L6 Q4 f; J2 b% r9 F; \& H	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS. ?% c8 ^1 `5 B& A8 C: y) Z8 W
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE; K5 ?7 o3 _' K3 x	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ; u3 j. H8 D a1 Y b; {
• 2002 Toyota Prius + X1 J( W1 J# Q* b& i& q* E+ m	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton4 A# e% R ^: c, ]4 Q. T
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 w4 L1 ]( Y* R% c; `7 d& S	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX0 \! R) p- M9 E# x1 y6 h7 K' F
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS / n' a* U% {+ ? n	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac p! t) z: v1 A8 M7 D8 o* m
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE ( f$ u* O) r( ^6 ^4 d- e8 L	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac9 f, F' x% Q1 s+ S+ G* }0 r& n
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 5 }+ q$ v2 v( g, j	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 1 {' j4 M1 b$ h/ J9 x7 x9 S
• 2002 Toyota Tundra % A" O" V& ?; H3 C' {	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac7 K$ e6 t9 c6 ~2 Y( F: T: I
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE' S( q- G+ h7 K" r* ~6 i7 R	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ! z- M* c2 _ F9 V: z; u
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE; n) O, n- K8 N1 h: h" o	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger4 u- x) X3 ~% {7 W" f
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL% y, N. y2 X$ S# n1 [	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base - o5 ?( y. d7 d9 W t& \
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited . N8 L+ U' b/ A7 l7 W/ }5 d2 H	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 L& t6 R$ c+ b7 \/ X+ f! \
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 2 \/ N2 J1 i$ R! b' }4 p	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser % d) q6 l( c' y3 F
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE # H1 W# ?/ m6 g	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE8 b$ S& F% ?4 t6 g& P% b# s8 c
• 2001 Toyota Prius . C8 @. _# q) e( n0 D	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 c( ?5 o K; ^: t* H
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma * j( d V' [& ^* N	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 T) U! ~7 z7 G8 G" ]
• 2001 Toyota Tundra ( N* O8 \2 t* Y+ \4 s! J, {	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger " Q% U% l0 o! C/ ]
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE% i' z, m7 [% ^& t$ y: J0 ^	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX$ O) v7 U: [' k! F& X& D1 P
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited K- `7 T7 Z1 j" R	• 1989 Toyota Camry B6 c8 J$ w; o$ {5 Z# k
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! C6 d3 P' g* U+ s/ @- o	• 1989 Toyota Tercel $ X( y# U6 A4 Y# T) `
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE + d2 }: W; `8 J/ `	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX' e% K" z0 N/ ]3 `$ Y$ l5 Y$ c6 t
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE; ]3 g( C/ ?3 G: x& Z+ O5 \|9 z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 6 p% I( v* p* ^/ }. F: X
• 2001 Toyota ECHO * g( k3 \: Z- }$ `2 j7 b6 `	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5! x( H7 I5 S& T! _5 i* h
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 z4 i/ U. r! w6 V3 ~% M2 Y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 0 u6 _# M2 q4 T1 ?2 u
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE0 s( _5 e7 Y, Y, `* h4 Y @. B	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ 6 E8 r4 @$ [7 `: D9 j$ [
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . v# s$ L+ A# {	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel7 G0 C8 R" E3 A$ M, O3 L! F# X
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner2 M1 h8 Y [, t* g, _4 u	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX3 @" k# {* q d0 F7 z# ^
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 6 L6 w' \2 M2 \|; T: M+ U% }, X6 q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ ( @' n* ?1 r/ P1 K5 J8 l
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S	• 1988 Toyota Camry % F; t3 y" r: z. \|1 m
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 c# q. ]3 O; P7 W j	• 1988 Toyota Pickup & d' T9 ? N: b! Y2 G
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5' a8 P/ C k$ I( d T# A" B4 h# ^	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger% Q. d2 t" v) n* c* Y6 m1 x! S
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE4 Y: }4 }+ ^& t	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX$ Q `; G' r0 {! O% Z
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 3 j8 y, C' e; }! Q! \|! E1 \|" O/ i; K	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac . u# Y" m. D9 e) V1 }4 K
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited * A0 k$ q$ D5 E* W, i	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 9 q2 ?: F% V+ @; J% s8 T& c% d
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 6 L6 ]' n& t5 }/ f$ Y) g+ \|. f	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger4 C; ?4 W( C0 g0 v Z( M5 j
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 0 Q6 J, l ~! \|; P# V9 }0 o9 c; _	• 1988 Toyota Tercel % T1 \. {6 ]- [1 u
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT0 `/ H- H5 j+ l5 ~- ]5 `1 f- u	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE R- A" q* m( l3 h
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 2 d0 M# _7 X& e1 f	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window8 W! n% f3 r5 @# Y( `3 n
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 + a: u4 W" b& ]" A# \|( c3 V; s	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 2 ?# W6 f. w6 F7 [
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 M) e3 g2 J5 C	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser + u( X3 L ~ Y: o ?
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 M3 s/ L3 R7 \: L	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR57 q5 f* P8 d# c2 V9 D
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited - v# k1 J- C" g	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 5 U7 \2 C2 r1 @7 I9 R3 A# `
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE : _/ D* h+ F) H1 f: w	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B P2 D/ i+ @" m L3 G3 I3 ^$ M
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS; u( Z. D. y! j% ] Y	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # Y3 \|; S b; N) r; n- T& Q
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE $ }- v4 [9 o4 b; p) s	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger # ^- @4 T; M; @) M
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara " z1 K4 ~9 [( X5 z4 \|' c, z	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 ) \. h' [3 F/ M: I! W
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited 5 ~2 q+ e7 E( {; W% k# U) c/ g	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX6 d8 ^; U" U G) f0 j% j
• 2000 Toyota Tundra - N+ i8 O2 g$ x9 r2 ~	• 1988 Toyota Van LE: n+ U8 j& O( B( e" _1 w5 k% l, \0 A
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS " E6 n4 P8 K( q+ `4 f	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser : K @- Z* }% O; v- t. i1 S
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE5 s7 o& U0 c6 }* N2 `	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5/ \|6 a3 ?3 {$ z" J% r6 G
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited5 c4 R d% o/ J* q	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 0 Q: Y1 m/ P% F9 \- Y3 g
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 1 L( F# N" z8 B2 S7 E+ c) G	• 1987 Toyota Van DX ) K/ A# f1 w" w& i7 _7 w, C4 J
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE , \9 y! k, c6 h$ F- ^) `	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window - Y, b. T; L r% F+ y
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * M; I4 Z8 l/ [( Q0 K	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton # [1 l: v7 \|7 i$ u$ [9 O) }" i5 x
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE* t7 _' E- ?) E	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 + ^$ Q; A4 o+ A6 M' p8 g
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL # v! F" L1 Q: ^1 m4 K' d	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX9 l6 u& D9 V0 P: l: T/ K
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 2 v1 \6 i' ?+ F	• 1987 Toyota Tercel / \|3 \|) f2 h. x/ C7 u2 s+ n
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE( J8 h$ i" k1 k* w	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX* e7 w2 c+ V- a; \|; r5 J* }, m& h4 l
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! o; U4 k& H5 c	• 1987 Toyota Van LE X3 A( d( y% \1 P% S
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE . p& R$ V& e% A* f6 L! N! M	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 8 R" B' `- X1 ]. O
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE * S6 ?6 Z. c$ K0 c	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX8 k6 x% B6 m- g- T* E$ j$ N
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma " k( i6 \|# A- X4 M	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 8 A7 W" ~. H6 z; J7 E9 u
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS 3 E1 H$ \| F& T/ L0 G8 K" P	• 1986 Toyota Van LE* a0 o( \2 j: z/ n
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 3 T" p) C/ `' W, K; W% C	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser * W' \% F. S0 G. k
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner6 P$ \|1 W6 T( O; M8 P/ P	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel* g& q" O# i( }6 t
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 3 u4 S ^. V+ T2 O! x	• 1986 Toyota Van DX) S: b j( [( ~9 D5 J. s
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited . X4 y' O k) q- C X2 q3 M	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window7 u6 J7 W* \|7 n& x0 b# W- E
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 3 O- x( {* R: z# H2 K+ {, [* C	• 1985 Toyota Van , B- i2 E' ]& S! j
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE5 ^4 J( Z. N3 c6 p/ O	• 1985 Toyota Van LE ! v# q4 G; l* J8 a
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL5 v: B, P& C9 ?4 a2 o6 w4 N	• 1985 Toyota Van DX" I7 K- Z/ l1 o: W/ n" [4 \|
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE5 p, [- A4 c2 @4 w/ Z" I" T6 m ]! t	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 w4 [9 Q" I B+ \|
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited' W" J, A; y8 t	• 1984 Toyota Van DX9 Q- {6 G( _$ X: m7 r# V6 U. y' G0 R
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 9 W0 K H! C: C4 R8 I( i	• 1984 Toyota Supra 5 g- d' a* J" [0 l( T% x- T
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE , `. Z, c0 }, q0 c	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX ^/ u' l: ^# j/ F! ?
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE+ x: [3 ?' ?0 s% d% F	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 T3 L4 z; i, U
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ; G% S. r" W1 }5 e6 q9 f9 M	• 1984 Toyota Cressida : R) O- J8 c7 R- X/ N$ ], q
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS5 y, z' ^1 R6 k- G$ F1 R1 Y7 }	• 1984 Toyota Van . u( x0 ?. W8 l3 d( g/ ]
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE : q( v A7 j4 T( n& u5 m	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE $ y# v5 R! [4 [8 C
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner # P' n3 F5 S, K, n	• 1984 Toyota Van LE- ~$ N! ~ ^/ _( Q k- x
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE, G' [' d* K% [- d& _	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE& c1 D$ N: G2 E
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX' Z% ^0 N! D+ Y9 R1 d	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 ' m3 x( b& O0 F0 Y; r8 y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' ?' L/ [, K, w& w, Z	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX1 Y: ]) o1 \|0 \9 H& ?" q: m7 e
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE $ Z' s8 g" s% ^, A0 ^	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 2 D/ C: Z* i: x0 h
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE ) L. s1 ^. o( E. ?9 b2 O	• 1983 Toyota Supra ; Y) R2 D7 X7 L+ E5 c
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ( c3 H0 {: w% Q$ `& U- I	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 }: ]: E ]% d7 D
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL* f' `, \2 V6 A2 X0 f# [6 u	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX 2 j& i* R* j1 n& r
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE5 a8 R' [. f: b" W+ {' ?	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 2 U( Q+ l5 G8 H* n& _
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ; D! k Y B( o: w. ~# o' V7 x/ a	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT9 v, m# H& D; s- S
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ; t" r( e7 O9 v5 s" u* x	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser * ^2 E' k8 n9 B$ Z9 I8 z
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited& k$ c/ S p9 z e) D$ a2 w' K& K	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 1 a1 b, Z: @; F! [- R
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE - i9 u( i7 [6 Z; i, [6 L! J! q	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX7 A9 j n4 `5 t
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 - d; n3 ]7 D% d0 b+ N) X	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST! n& @6 J5 \" G+ h; R/ I3 }/ _* ~
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR51 d& ?8 {6 E9 a4 k$ [	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 5 D( p, [8 v* F% l% V8 ?/ n9 y
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX# b$ e$ S/ l S8 H+ j5 z. Z	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR55 \: b* c/ E, \|" M1 w L r6 C
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ' n0 [5 L, p+ u& I! M4 e	• 1981 Toyota Tercel . \4 [ ` g \: p
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS / \|0 E1 T' V2 W: R( E+ l5 \|# i	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 5 R0 t% r9 Z1 R8 k: ~* ^6 ]$ ^* \9 X0 }
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX; J5 m% [- x% v9 G- n! Z	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser " U8 q7 d8 A: M' n' X- J
• 1997 Toyota T-100 ! Z! g6 j; ?7 r( \|0 M	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX, D; i/ F9 l" a1 W# X
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited% k, h' x0 I. a	• 1981 Toyota Cressida " b/ X+ w9 E) I9 h4 Q1 ^
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE * r1 f) a0 P5 G) c	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT / A9 h; M; p# L
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5) Y# ?' U: P; a6 R o	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 8 N+ k S& S- f" w
• 1997 Toyota Corolla % w, q/ R4 E0 V& g	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser / I1 q4 V" I9 z) ~/ T5 x
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5& ~' v: m# p0 C/ _	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe6 W. N( O: a, M# Z6 o+ v
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL; l2 O: ^" M0 f" r/ n	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX , l0 o5 ?0 }; Y# A. ~/ h
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE/ Z: \! H x0 z( d' g5 ~	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST $ U/ j! l* d6 e ]* A8 \* o
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 8 x! C* E6 D) I. ~/ J1 U	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury % X/ ]" w: E6 ~* T9 Q! D
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE6 r0 D3 O* \) l: o: F3 p	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 0 a U' b" K3 N+ ^& e
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE , }1 a! O# P# F% A" i+ e0 m	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR55 X. @( M) ?6 j, c8 y ^- u- s
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX" v2 h& Z r) U6 N/ p	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe( q# I6 O- ?# K/ O2 t6 n; `0 x
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE 4 m9 b5 h+ \* T	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5+ ^8 _2 p. ^! X; F6 u
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR54 L# @8 s6 n. T" j! H* r0 C% d4 p8 J

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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+ V; K$ \( f% l% x. w* `如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
( d' R! {9 |1 d4 n9 A q2 [5 \+ I! LToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
! E4 y: `: P# ]2 k• 1997 Toyota Camry CE5 J- f: E4 v* R3 I
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
4 c8 c4 `. H/ SApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 % G/ j; R& K& Z1 h* ~
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$ d( I% j. q# E# R佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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* v+ w- i' u4 A1 I: K1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；2 E* k5 s( G/ q9 u) }/ g* V% b
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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