說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
9 }- N' X4 `' _; N& \! J学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ; r9 g/ Z! J, [0 E3 B
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 8 q6 D3 Q5 T9 [$ d+ `
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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6 \, C7 p6 B8 ?; x( i' e: s0 p看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 ! W: B! P- i+ ]

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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE 5 r5 \1 s7 g, Z1 U- C/ @$ C	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE $ V8 `/ t' Q8 b/ m% L) U
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport. d8 v5 S% s: P' h" {/ h& d' j, T	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE) a$ Z- W E/ D6 ~' r8 Y3 G
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE / Z8 q- F% D. M' A. Y" s	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 3 Y% e" p# t0 T3 w: @3 f
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5& C0 S0 h+ {# Z5 _" b, q	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5& V, G9 Z* T0 b* a: ^
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE, _- ~. G0 u% G7 \|2 K" i N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE' M! r) f1 _( ^# C
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE- n) y) W, n& G2 [	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX# u9 I+ q! k7 Q R) m
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid - ~2 z- Z% _( b5 ]% X# ]	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 1 r0 n' X# U" n z6 Z
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited) Q' S9 l. W) i3 J! o: b3 P	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ! P! a( `, R& b
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE# Y% T( Q- ^0 B7 T$ J6 G3 F% w	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE% s: c5 h/ V1 S3 H; i6 K
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE9 X. E9 w2 U+ \5 I" x* r	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ( G" F- K) t" ]& ]: t8 p
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE [" _" M( D: K* j0 ~$ g* H	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST , a" w( S ?, s" P; b: r
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 8 D R9 n2 z+ V, T; K( [) A% V	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited 9 V4 Y& x. ]) ?% \) \|
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + z* C. T1 B; V6 t, Z	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ! v5 ~! G( V" O- y
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 2 \: m& D4 n7 K# K1 b* @' j# [. c	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5& J9 c5 }5 R4 d6 [7 v
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE9 H5 R5 e+ b; \|8 y# B3 z	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 1 r5 `# Z1 @. n6 q4 r6 G
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5* o c) V9 L9 n7 B1 K* {	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX' q: k& P+ j/ m& f
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 2 Q5 x7 I+ K$ S& {	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT1 V5 O; M2 C5 o9 O( F2 v
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS1 B! z% l- ` M7 s2 h	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 1 l% ^ R' p n, J( C/ _
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL& n) i! V) Q6 m5 g4 U( R& n	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 8 l( t4 q0 X7 }, s1 }
• 2006 Toyota Prius + p. K8 {0 w' C/ F: H	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX 3 G9 F& c) a$ q8 {7 z9 w
• 2006 Toyota Camry ; @2 k0 n0 Y! B' `# e6 C	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 9 o6 P' @) G4 T) o) S4 Y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 4 B5 I1 i4 Z- y# g$ d5 Q	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE # \|$ ]# Z/ j3 u
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma $ P. A5 e% m; ?# t0 ]1 d5 P	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ) R6 c1 C+ q& U" A
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE0 D s K5 _* V6 l; [, a0 P8 T	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton$ a' Z6 r3 B: G* v5 r
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 \|% q1 }" D2 V7 ?* p1 I) l" t	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 g0 \|1 \|' G" A ]4 `! o9 n
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner, T, n h* T* g$ O	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 2 S5 \" v: S O% s2 H3 u
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR51 m8 x& J& j# U7 m$ P	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX& z$ {9 ^/ \ p
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S + O o9 P( F4 D	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX0 N$ @6 q) g. [ x2 B! @& I- A# \|- P
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited0 Y' v* Z+ Z$ A$ a+ t R* B7 g	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) K2 ^" q7 g+ L
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE$ P. o) I" N& e2 a	• 1995 Toyota Tercel - L/ e) _9 t6 u. K
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS ) ^6 h$ p# n" l# R5 o	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ) `. n- X9 k F. j5 P0 N
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner- F% \+ O" s9 M# N& b k! L7 b. N) P9 L	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX+ \|! I; [$ x4 j( N
• 2005 Toyota Tundra - Y" d/ d# }1 a/ S9 e1 g	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 2 K4 \, a7 Q6 D: y
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS ) ?: ]8 X( K5 K, C; \8 \: F. \* w	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX # D- ~4 h$ Y4 G" ?, F8 }7 S% B5 b
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5# m, O( f% ^9 ?+ G	• 1995 Toyota T-100 , S7 F+ E1 d, q5 L# p; a: w
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited/ J- _& s) O+ c$ q) U l	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma ( f7 c& Z8 Z# s" ?0 S) s
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 8 \+ J) i$ ^: Z9 V3 P2 X/ F4 B" ?	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE 9 w+ Y! m5 `4 q# I
• 2005 Toyota Camry 3 H+ x+ m- j! N- Q	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 \7 y% m5 p" t& u% Z( q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring / S/ e; j. } {& \/ D	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX, _) A! l/ d: b+ E$ ?6 \|- O
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE9 J y9 s/ C# E/ f	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX ; y j% G& `. c% L1 e
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE7 \|7 w$ b% Z5 C0 m: t' W9 m( d	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX 6 K7 i* T- [, {& \|' M
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited0 u: j( t3 y/ f# x. t	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 ( B4 ]% B# }. v- Z
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma . g% R* M R8 Z, z4 Q' o' b5 i6 ?	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ) i4 \|0 i7 D2 Q6 k' r% ^' n) P9 \|
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S% u5 D% c) t4 Q& B; F, D	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE - `% `0 M" I. G/ @. c' }
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE - `2 a6 N' }4 _	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE ) ]: F+ F5 I! f1 }+ w
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited : _# ?; B9 J/ r- T	• 1994 Toyota T-100 9 \|: b7 p, U4 x1 j8 A3 _$ k
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR51 S% h; f# ]7 I9 R( \|2 r+ ?- l8 O	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 " \|4 H+ g9 `# i/ }' j$ \|
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE v# A, ^7 Z$ _8 T$ T: v	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 9 G7 l' t: \, W, T
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 3 t+ G* }3 R, T; k- \8 V, E* [/ i e	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX1 _$ @/ c b+ ~; c% {0 N4 W9 N8 s
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 5 P. ?" s* w; P# {* L3 y	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - g) T, k; ], `/ p) M% M
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE- u: W8 w5 Y2 E$ X9 O	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE / u; u0 `) `; P* k1 p' h/ n. C
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE2 X8 W" D# n) G3 D2 l( k- m& Y	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ; O; S6 L! n$ c- I" M+ {
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 3 M" B3 l& l7 r" a% e- G	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 6 e# j3 o2 ]/ G" q9 o5 t* y! c1 B4 m
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 8 y' S+ L9 R' ~& X! z# u% M# w. m	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE , a+ T7 e7 V; M! L) }# a% q
• 2005 Toyota Prius 1 H9 a+ S* t1 _1 M/ u' I	• 1993 Toyota Corolla & y i0 b$ A* j8 s5 i0 h
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE+ U$ F) p( X/ j; k/ B! a3 ~	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton * {1 ]/ F% k7 i6 H
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE& l7 j8 l6 _2 l k	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 {- [ f; v2 d! Q
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited , y Y! T; [: p9 e3 e. q	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX; A4 U- h, i/ H5 f
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ' @1 P& \0 s& A3 r	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX: l' P1 }4 K3 E5 M) R
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE1 f) [2 Y5 F. k/ y E	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 7 _( t8 @; L; {7 u& f6 C) R
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE7 p2 M5 \% z3 W0 \% x* o	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ) M& ?* u1 o. d1 i0 t
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE + b0 ^! I; S+ p	• 1993 Toyota T-100 5 F+ v' Z7 J) s1 O' m* S2 i/ R5 w
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE3 J) b' h, `2 V" d4 N( ?5 _- z	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE; M+ V$ m4 \8 ^ ]
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited1 f: Y) h- Z+ B U) S	• 1993 Toyota Pickup % t/ { @) \; ?0 h: P% `8 c
• 2004 Toyota Prius 1 ^5 T& n4 {2 v- B	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 5 u. n5 C4 t9 ?+ G2 m. J
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma * p+ A9 {3 S! s3 t/ w	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE , F1 V7 N4 A" `1 P3 a
• 2004 Toyota Tundra & F( z/ J5 r0 h1 n& B	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5$ R/ A+ a* G8 P; v+ u
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE: ?% _) h" z+ Z) ^6 I M	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5$ Y$ ~6 q* s1 U1 @7 N, ?3 P( r9 r
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited& b( I6 `& P8 ~$ X8 U7 M( X. ^5 b; x	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE * l" b; \|$ @$ E
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited F# V I6 d8 D D: `2 ]	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE + c0 W& i: Z* M* m5 A
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE' r9 i( H" j% \6 _( L* Y$ E	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 9 E: j$ f# V# a4 K+ O8 I
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE / }9 ?0 l0 ^# ^, U8 \|	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE4 U& ]7 j$ e" g1 i2 r
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE/ u8 }8 I8 }* U6 D# d* d	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac+ [' U+ r- \|! m2 c4 A
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited( F% D7 N* I9 `: K	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton . l4 y+ s2 n/ @9 R
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ' r( \' t" h1 F0 S0 I2 i	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE% j( H4 \|# J4 [% b% r
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner* i9 z% Y2 S% g) C+ o1 o	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 5 k( e9 K# b( `; w$ P' o
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 3 {! P! P7 j, D, `$ P	• 1992 Toyota MR2 * z/ s5 M8 y% H& z9 l
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 H; ?7 i5 Z4 T; \|: e	• 1992 Toyota Pickup & i5 Z$ X/ h# X
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ L$ a3 c8 _0 K1 ]1 a4 Y	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX; Q' j" b4 h3 m. }- P) Z6 ~
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS# Q6 g- v- p7 H# U. A1 k	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac# `, _' W4 \|3 Y* c( s, w% n8 k
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 8 l H: ^* s6 \|& @1 v	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5" y$ M: M4 u3 k
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S 2 ]" Y: {1 u( q" t# u2 `	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX" }/ e$ \| s0 E& E. k! t0 U
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited % O- E7 O. p! g" d+ a. G7 k	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 L. R! j1 b( j; Z3 x) E( m9 @2 [
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / F7 o2 C0 \|. n. u- l1 n& [	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser " ]0 R" S# q0 ?7 z+ y. G! W/ T1 v
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 & Y5 n0 C0 R3 _	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 8 }2 {* r. }! k* t2 U5 _
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited- `" Y% h: G6 E. v# C- X8 @	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE $ d( [1 @% ]! s9 U. `2 y# B! L. h$ w
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE+ A& ]& h" F w0 S6 P6 H	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR53 r @# D) _+ W+ J1 C( I; g
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT' C E; o" S( z7 ~8 c" W- E	• 1991 Toyota Camry ) M+ @# j4 `# N! C, b. F/ K
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 3 k) c/ p; r w+ Q! W	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser $ j9 ?$ u, p& }" Z$ j: ]
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 3 f9 u3 v l8 z$ T& i+ h	• 1991 Toyota Pickup , Y' j5 g- h. [0 D8 Q: ?0 n
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ; O C" [$ j" P0 s' C/ C	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX/ _- `, U2 ~' x% E8 G X5 G5 t
• 2003 Toyota Tundra * E6 i; ~# f9 z* d	• 1991 Toyota MR2 / o* T+ Y9 J, R/ g3 T4 }
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE, q4 l/ X& \0 _7 r' j+ T	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 - v' K% d0 m1 m" X! }# q. s0 b
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited) P5 ?8 H3 S9 N2 ?$ S0 }	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ) H1 p* s" P) p, _) c" N2 \|' G
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE s2 O) l9 W3 t; e; V" O	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac! B7 o! Y9 D2 q; O+ P
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5* @2 m6 t. @/ E0 R2 Q2 J6 R	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac" X6 h& P& f+ _$ A: }2 O
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE 6 [7 E6 E$ d' b7 _, F1 y. {5 r/ M	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 1 W* d$ S6 H- o, f) V, H! z" W
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE, C, T4 B! l+ n	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX" x+ w4 V- s! j1 `1 d- R- v
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited5 h6 B5 W, x" E, h8 ^	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE 0 W* b k3 z* o; b2 h' ~
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 9 \|5 K! i3 h% {0 h& x& ~	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 3 U$ R3 z2 i5 S2 z' A& I( y
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited+ R. R; }$ Z' W, [7 y	• 1990 Toyota Pickup ; u; v `% L4 I. [& Q
• 2002 Toyota ECHO * `9 z; E3 q: v	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE " h: \( V1 x! t8 l
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE $ k6 p7 W0 w9 k8 _" U) e	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 N3 M* q; x2 n L. Z& W. w
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 3 s+ o8 u2 g* W$ t/ ~. a	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ9 K9 w( K9 a2 c& C8 {! q# a
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 3 \|( b) b+ [" \|	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT& ?+ ?4 K5 m; s5 U
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT' a% D! h) O' H; ~% W/ y	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base : ]8 P' f% M* f& V; \|3 M
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner8 n* M9 X' Y. e8 ~! `) ~( e" T* B	• 1990 Toyota Camry 0 t6 `7 W" ~$ w6 o
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S6 ? l2 W) }, A* }" ~" B& [	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST . g( E8 \|+ i( z- r" Z% \|, w
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 4 G* L4 R3 Q1 R9 B3 O% M* X	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX 0 r7 t1 f, `+ I& o! [8 K3 q
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / v5 Q& ^8 \# g' a4 y% i, S. z: n	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ) d( [- H5 A4 p
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 . m3 y0 X+ H! P	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR51 S `) u% L T* V
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5& o1 f9 u8 k) {	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS + V( c) g( W$ `8 n( E
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE! ?& R" k5 @; g) l	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 C1 O6 d' s) ]# s* U- A
• 2002 Toyota Prius 1 E" n$ L" l* ]2 d4 z# s' @	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, Z) s5 W! g( S+ F2 G% v
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 N$ p1 t% \- k8 v5 i	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX 5 Y0 y. E0 }0 x, }
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS . p" m5 b0 S; U. p3 K	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac9 _9 g) F# ]: n) j# H
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE 2 e m2 o6 n" }	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac ) a( k' W+ i4 w, ~, J( q: V( ^
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma - f, N( D# H) H+ M3 _* T5 i	• 1990 Toyota Tercel , D" l# P; B/ {9 k! }2 v, l
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ; t- r( s) j! K* n2 X4 B& A	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac5 \|8 y& B$ _! b2 z4 A, w* ^
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE# b- e& b* R0 Q' M9 J% f( K {# i	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ; N3 V v* B" e5 C" e
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE. U; U0 l0 O; Z/ N6 K* ^" j	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger + L7 ~8 S8 o% o! M0 ~+ V9 ?, G( d
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL7 q M7 X; I% x, x	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base5 L% ?, ?1 ?) F/ M+ `
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited . y8 p- k! e* M- j* \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac# K1 ~- r, x) z7 B; z: J
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 1 _5 X- x: m7 D5 L h: g	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 [7 S, T# P. w6 @' L8 u9 f( ]
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 7 O+ C3 I5 l8 e T5 H, O	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE : M% U# m5 R$ E7 O+ \|# v( i
• 2001 Toyota Prius : ~8 j+ K& l5 r1 \0 _, ?	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX M& e0 @4 x9 I# O& ~6 T# ^$ }; G" T
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma : K- d5 V$ o# g( j( Q/ m( B9 D7 i/ a	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton # t# \|3 a3 f g) m& o
• 2001 Toyota Tundra # Z+ ^) `5 i# v' Q8 x	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger" b6 M# Q3 C: p1 N/ \% a. y
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE ( I! T2 b$ F( f6 X9 C; C) Z	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX : ~ P4 x3 N: H# X
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited3 S! R3 r& [; l0 M) @; {	• 1989 Toyota Camry E0 {2 M# S7 q; u$ x
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + s" F% l* H" C ]/ J9 K- I	• 1989 Toyota Tercel " \|! A6 N* H F, \|8 s( V- {. S
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE# ^+ `& @$ {& E W8 p P$ l( }	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX4 U. q' g- V/ ?+ _
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE/ B/ m" F2 `5 a/ y6 E	• 1989 Toyota Pickup % @1 i6 `, H, z8 }/ q* }& x
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ( j) Z- }8 u5 \|! u" g1 _! k	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 R& U% `- L; \|) ` B
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ; l$ E1 ?. Z7 h	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger4 N* q; g6 \$ v& o0 o+ j9 Y k9 ^
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 8 \|, n7 }" r n2 l+ v1 b	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ5 Z9 @/ h6 C F4 h; x/ k! p( L
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5, U1 u4 p- f! }( ?) z	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 0 ^* R/ \|, @1 V) N& V6 r0 F' L6 ^
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 6 I: l2 g& G4 x1 i: l+ @* [! P5 R	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 8 E- \) \5 {4 g3 \|
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS . G# E) D! U7 i$ Q0 c+ i	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ, X3 b& E# F' w, q1 \|3 c$ l% L
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ' I5 h: L V( m K' l- Q	• 1988 Toyota Camry % [. v8 c+ [: ]9 n) [$ X& r) \
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner* w. v) H' g5 d1 \7 S+ w2 l	• 1988 Toyota Pickup , ]5 L6 ~( X& O) p
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 3 ~/ `3 n8 e) Q' L) w	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger! m2 b7 C# ?: a3 A( T g3 Y
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE , K# t9 u3 _) z- l: e: E7 V; t	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX . f7 X, F/ {& w- k$ r
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 7 g* I% P3 O4 H4 }- @) r, K+ S	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ( q! F7 H7 L! M; ?
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited v3 H+ z* \. c! f0 t) A/ p6 g	• 1988 Toyota Van DX" V' `+ r u7 W- ^, R
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 2 `" R7 ?5 `# @) I3 U4 ~	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger # q6 h9 \% {- {, O% c& Z' F+ B
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 7 l/ n# E3 g7 F	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ) f; `/ v+ M5 _8 J
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT! j' Z7 }4 I# V/ P	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE! X/ X% w2 C1 _9 I/ A
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 3 b. C9 Q- _( h9 m& b' T* p	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window ' S: ^: p1 l @$ `0 s8 A
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 / S; `) k, } Q8 s) L	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton - S0 _7 U: d! P+ C- F7 c
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: R! P1 U: L, G" Y9 l6 A' l	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ; s; H# \| d# Z I5 r( l+ S
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ @% `* N+ \|& Z+ l8 N	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5; a- g& A# n& ~+ i" X; ?( w: a8 F
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited # M" T! b/ f6 Y' Y* i* G	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger6 t8 J" b9 Y4 w0 S
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE( ~! ?' ^ }3 l" M	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B $ `+ f, Q1 H$ V7 W3 h3 w: W
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS$ B$ B0 u" s. R- L8 z$ }1 f; q	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 8 g$ L( `9 Y2 G0 Q0 J) V
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE& T4 n% Q; @+ f3 Y5 J	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger: ^8 ?3 x ~% E3 h8 z
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara . c; a7 b: `: g4 C	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5. A \|$ x; X! W$ {1 n' H( c
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited) v, L+ g, v, ^- g2 b" w	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2000 Toyota Tundra ' \|7 d9 f% J( z+ H; \2 f4 Q	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 5 @7 h& @/ H' ]' ~
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS , L5 h& P* F; M	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 a! c, T! j6 b
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE. ~+ L( l; \$ F4 A9 L1 J	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5( I/ Z2 L" A2 k! j- l8 v$ S6 }
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited " A+ U) a- B o$ c$ u( V" y) p0 p	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 8 ^1 ^9 w5 g6 V1 d7 s
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 3 r7 Z6 n: v0 z. a" y* @% X	• 1987 Toyota Van DX; x+ G4 r; g1 L; K
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE ) N4 G: S0 h5 f( o	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window$ Z( e) \| q8 s Y* M
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5' [/ h3 d' G9 F9 i/ p1 _) {	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton* y" m" S0 c5 T
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE , z9 _. o: L: H+ {: M3 u) t- g	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 n1 o/ ]4 P- D+ i
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL ; \|2 x3 W' F5 `. B. h; ^	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX ) l! G4 k# J# a9 q3 M
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner - n" {2 d( Z: [9 p7 j	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ' A6 g: d6 a$ H* D: m; A- O' I( B2 p
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE1 n1 v# C' R5 j) A# x% E	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX1 _& r& A* J! N; x5 u, e9 L5 l' R
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5/ d7 L7 B! \|8 a- f" K	• 1987 Toyota Van LE 5 \|0 W/ N5 `' \|; c+ a
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE 0 B# ~9 W- E0 I8 ?& v	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel ; s9 f! E. y [7 z5 C5 @3 S2 t ]
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE 5 u+ ?& r( K1 c8 ? O8 ^, X! G3 E	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX0 [: C. O$ c R! g- C8 Z1 m2 j
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma ' \|# m3 _" u9 }7 S5 {) x	• 1987 Toyota Pickup - \+ W7 o% L8 J
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS6 E3 r( g2 n m) i. I2 D	• 1986 Toyota Van LE$ [8 ^+ H( r0 g3 O6 w7 T# d
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE , E: `4 t, m6 R% a	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 I% y2 X' l+ `% B5 J
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner % J; V% d& K \|	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel9 k- Q$ `1 H" B! @" s8 x9 \
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 * K* Q. ]# s8 a# `( B9 \|7 y	• 1986 Toyota Van DX : m4 G* c% M5 s- @4 l* S" m
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited! W/ l5 U& G% x0 t* I1 ^% N	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window, F$ M$ h9 T+ F* \1 i, Y: a5 _
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE) X& n7 \|2 N; L	• 1985 Toyota Van 1 m4 i- I7 ]0 i! \|; W4 \|6 s
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE3 W/ {2 j3 x% e+ O* e	• 1985 Toyota Van LE ! L/ Y/ s+ j; ^: q, U. B: \|# Y
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL$ u6 N( ~' M4 B	• 1985 Toyota Van DX9 f3 l% ? E" i2 V: j+ F& g
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE, X' K! E: Z ?' o- g	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 z" K, M( [! @. K% {- l6 Z
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited X; @/ A3 ]! ]' R/ A ~& G	• 1984 Toyota Van DX 6 f5 L8 W- l4 i# [
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE" D/ T. r, Y) `9 \	• 1984 Toyota Supra 6 [7 {9 q' \|; h
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE; P# N" S6 ]; D	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX' a1 b) }5 n' L& d5 G, \|6 ~7 T
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE " o2 d3 Z y9 F# [9 B% \! q	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser , \|3 i5 ?1 p" f
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited / S4 x& N$ i6 @8 A( T0 E	• 1984 Toyota Cressida ; R* B) z( \|9 R4 g' N# p
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS3 f! i" o0 A Z: N8 N+ ^2 V9 C	• 1984 Toyota Van : q; _$ z5 D; p- `. w
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE% v1 f( B4 \/ s" K7 ?8 j	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE 2 }+ D. }0 L) K1 y
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 8 `: M# Y& Q* x' Z) t/ u8 f5 U% f	• 1984 Toyota Van LE 9 v! C% F0 \- \|9 r4 W
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE+ P& ^) ^/ C/ p& w* G	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE( y0 t" Z; I+ [, K& s) n' \
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX $ I5 z6 A- n: g" _, x	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5( e4 E% ^5 d1 ]' p; p2 ]' m
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! V! ^8 E) n4 V	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX' u" j8 ~& M8 B- @% a0 e
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE1 W; E3 e- f7 G+ u. T, v	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 2 h6 N5 c7 o$ X) s* j4 Q
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 5 ]) L8 d* C0 n D; X2 N2 i ^	• 1983 Toyota Supra p+ t2 k/ W& q$ C7 q+ D6 O5 _& m
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma " `( G" C& h' e- V8 A	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser / L, m1 x; y+ Z4 a* Q* F) `
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL: i9 O5 I& Y& F1 D! c/ Y	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX O! F- R( ]% N1 L4 R8 a
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE 1 t7 Z% m3 R, i	• 1983 Toyota Cressida 8 h8 }5 N% y6 e$ v) s* W
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 R5 P! O7 [) \5 Y a9 _& m	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT ; q, S6 K$ T7 i9 C" ^; x7 D; I
• 1998 Toyota T-100 + T* m8 f* ~. [- u) n. W( \# c' y	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser , D# O# Y7 K3 x. u3 i; r& u6 V
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 6 D2 m+ R5 V9 H) i	• 1982 Toyota Cressida * ~0 y) y3 h d/ k
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE" k$ i! Y+ `' F8 H+ C3 L2 J; o	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX! ~# c8 R+ K8 ~( P* b1 u# J# b
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 2 `. h C2 I: z	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST* {& Q9 ]; n, V& s, V) U
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 7 L& u5 o4 X U; N/ Y# \|8 b$ g# r; x	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 6 s& f( A$ O5 X# l
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX; R% H+ E$ \|$ L	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5& @+ F% M' {+ q- Q' J$ R
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma / N d6 @; o* o. l4 d	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 4 H* P8 X; @0 g9 \' l1 B
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS # _! g% z1 O3 {2 H1 O6 y	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 Y; ~; [9 Y$ f
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX 2 B1 b9 y$ C" w v5 t- z9 q9 Q9 v	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 @- q$ ]* [ p
• 1997 Toyota T-100 $ U% X* M4 r. ^& }$ ]3 a- G	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX, g2 E, d; w. R( T2 \|0 V
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited- f: I/ j3 U' r+ s3 M3 q" Q! J	• 1981 Toyota Cressida + `# T- y! b. [& [
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 4 T8 h; h( n1 V5 c0 `	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT4 Z7 N+ H/ E5 n7 m w. L
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 , w4 R" I* p" u- ?1 ~3 B	• 1980 Toyota Corolla # s; e+ ^7 \& F: d3 i' w
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 5 f3 K7 S i/ G" f1 [$ L	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser # q; U5 t* S9 F% Q4 B5 K
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5# l9 v0 L4 Z$ {6 y2 [! }	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 4 e2 H* l7 f$ \5 X1 R. { u' h
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL $ H9 l2 z+ c' I$ n: S5 P	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX' ]4 u& ?. G% f% h% x
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE- Q6 _! @# Z, h9 f3 h, f	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST- \|! M3 H% [) n% m( s l
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 5 g B' O# s: L9 e; w7 W	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury $ _5 w3 c. _2 ?/ a5 a8 L4 {
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE3 ~8 Z0 J4 x# ^) u, @* y$ T	• 1980 Toyota Tercel ! p/ W) i1 N3 R$ v) E
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE2 p+ c# I. S3 Z: `	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR52 ^* M/ Q6 ~) m% n1 f
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX; `5 S/ s% f6 R& Y6 d( E& A* n	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe9 h4 k( P4 U, @; t
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE / o1 A9 w# @8 \2 z7 X	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 % G) \|# L* l- a3 i4 z
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5+ p3 l" {- h4 j2 ~ v/ I* r

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 3 w4 S8 A' Z/ m: @, n

! _& l) Z2 u2 u如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
# |3 @) l& B" RToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE( k6 ^3 Q9 f% P2 c
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
( p2 R$ g: S0 a; j3 @&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
6 e+ T, z" D+ O7 C, AApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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1 ?- O5 N% l5 Y  o佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。& y5 F( D+ A5 H2 O0 D8 C$ ?% R

* s3 z3 Y  E: D- t$ e由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：& H. d3 r# g2 L6 O' z+ P
7 k# L' K( s! o1 D1 K# f
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
3 [* y/ Y2 `8 o( }/ J( U& Z2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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