說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
3 T" ~& C: E* r; l1 B& N" D9 c学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 - F9 C7 G6 I1 R. K" n
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
, C* p$ I1 P$ o& P/ {2 }( X$ U楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 ) V7 v, c2 N% C4 e$ V1 v
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 ) g7 {" P2 U3 y+ K% }, v& j6 L
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination6 P" b5 ]7 Y  g0 H: _& y) }

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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE, s% P) O$ P' O& A# \|	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE % s8 x* F0 y% ?! `( @0 ]
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport z8 Y$ \! K; D1 X/ ]! j& w0 }	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 4 g5 E: H5 m/ b. k2 o
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE, \|5 M, P5 Q) S2 H8 g. z	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX3 R: u3 i) V% I( J
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR51 V' \|, O$ k: K! K$ v* }) J2 k	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5; d1 P) s: ?* [; f& K8 B
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE / @& a2 V5 \|$ p* o9 _) I	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE , g2 t9 O- a _+ \|7 e
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE' ]: V* y7 b! Z: x" V0 v	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX ; }/ Y/ ^0 C; \* x* T
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid1 x6 P% V. U1 H h5 C	• 1996 Toyota Corolla , \|1 `7 y* u/ q# N; Q- G, j% s" n
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited4 G2 }1 ~7 ^1 l$ M/ H; ~	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 C. f7 S% M2 K7 S
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE + I' p6 a% p& U/ Z, F+ z	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE / e1 N9 h+ E0 o; z
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE8 d5 N4 ~! L+ n' Y' S5 M	• 1996 Toyota T-100 8 Q9 ]. W/ j( ^7 r1 e/ S" g
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE8 T" q& k7 C7 e' }	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST 9 V) X7 ^, u }2 _& C
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited& g, A; I0 [+ e& @5 j `8 q" [9 g8 O9 F	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited' ^- @, M! ~+ U. N, \* h
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 a3 Q1 Q' J8 g7 v	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ; G$ D; w- M3 `, s+ G* m! i
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE 3 d" Q8 G, W7 C/ ?+ I0 @1 u7 b	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5$ v- M( c8 W8 A+ A8 Y8 t4 ]2 _9 \|
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 2 B, B0 v( M4 G' v+ R. W& [	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 4 T5 F2 `* ~% Z( @
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 g% y3 ^4 D; f- p! S0 [( r0 ?. \	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX% U3 F; n! S' y, \|
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 5 Q- z B5 j* K( a7 z0 Z$ x. K	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT' M0 s9 Y$ ^- s: ~, e4 p& g }
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS4 A2 j( U9 Y3 l [4 ~# w% w	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ) V: _- H" I1 Y4 o) d6 q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL * r" q+ G* a. ?) e; O8 U1 ^! e	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 8 L* B( L2 K6 x
• 2006 Toyota Prius / { s" `2 S, a4 v% l! w1 s1 L$ _	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX ) Z3 u; {" G% t0 Z
• 2006 Toyota Camry ) o6 r: c0 f" \3 H1 }( R	• 1995 Toyota Pickup , z r d. f) j" k& B) Q \
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 5 r9 a9 H, y/ a# ]- u. _" y; m	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE 2 L G4 J( d( F/ h5 u1 t
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma : m* L; ~8 m; i" }9 k$ N	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE1 ?3 z. K$ z; }9 T# U
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE3 q! f# d% i) J4 F- k }7 N	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton ?# U. l; }# \8 _6 s! d
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited" H3 l, o+ K7 a& p2 D/ ~	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5( G9 u: x5 S) K: t' _
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner3 l8 d5 n& l! p3 T7 e; z	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5' y8 y# h6 b- k. M$ J
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 1 B p2 w! _2 u* G- o O: O	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX L, v4 W! @: ^( k" t, \8 Q; P x
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S% M9 B; l- P( c	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX9 I/ @/ d* ?3 v& B) x* i- \; P
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited0 k, d, \9 n. \|# o	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5( H9 H1 o8 M9 G8 E
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE! W/ A/ b% L w+ q( A	• 1995 Toyota Tercel $ g7 x* `& E* f3 K- C& y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS & N+ m1 p& a4 p' D- o	• 1995 Toyota Corolla % F1 ?5 l& v5 _* F9 z. s. m
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner , M- \1 ~ x5 \	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX! B6 L' k; L" O/ ]
• 2005 Toyota Tundra - d7 i* H8 U, ^$ }	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE& s# Y i; t [: @( k- g
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS) j3 Y+ [6 A% D* K	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX! J n7 v h2 Z0 @5 L( B
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * q/ k) w" L7 q5 W# y: T2 T	• 1995 Toyota T-100 - h1 q$ J" [% A0 ?; C
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited% N+ \( r w' ?7 p ^6 C `, _	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 8 A; Y$ D/ F t% N# D( o
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL ) ^9 p7 v: M: @8 N	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE5 m1 P! ^' j# r2 L4 U) d, U
• 2005 Toyota Camry ' Y& N. c6 R5 G: n# ~9 x	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 l' n" [+ T; p+ d" v" b
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring . m- X' `/ H& `9 M6 }	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX* \|) \' W" f) E9 b. e. C
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE. p) _* w# `& G) P	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX; L, n1 Z8 ^4 c8 H; i0 z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 6 `7 }8 \8 W) y3 C2 l% K! g8 B	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX . F1 j" L6 w, }. f8 o0 c
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 5 ]8 m/ ?# _8 o$ V	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 7 \; x" D; T( I; Y
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ) U9 V0 `1 M6 o# m. E' d+ J	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ' t8 v* F2 E' C, U6 n. }! }
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S ! ]. o8 Y4 z5 K) J& Z8 D+ T E	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE + g: d: J( ] d; {6 F/ ?, B k
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE, n0 o: \$ ~9 {	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE/ l' s2 i) _* G4 b
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited h5 t; W) R, p5 _, F) g	• 1994 Toyota T-100 ; I' y1 J# V G" x# f" H( k5 ?
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5' G( Q/ k o [/ }' \+ @% J	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR55 `+ a, w1 C: h% O/ S; D; F
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE+ u7 O9 M4 }% q7 b L6 Y	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE- M& g! r" u+ e, K5 x) f
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 % V: Z! P8 [3 Z) ]	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX ; I. ^" v0 C& y7 z" i! ]# \|
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ; _& R8 E( d. ]. v	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5- P) a- F0 H8 k
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE( O. M7 x% F3 t- m, j	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE / r' j0 G% A L- e9 l2 j
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE - [, C# L/ q$ G, Q9 w6 g* u/ g	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ) r' Q# o. a, r% D( X0 N6 u
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited. o/ {+ b4 B& K! l g	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton7 K8 D% }$ C+ c1 B6 C
• 2005 Toyota Highlander ; R* K2 o; I* [- Q# W! D; z( v8 q8 i	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE: v+ \|3 V7 y9 i/ s* Z8 X, k c1 o
• 2005 Toyota Prius ) x* w7 `: `9 y D/ V	• 1993 Toyota Corolla " L, \5 Y! t8 N) M
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE* d) C# ^# l [! I% a4 I: C	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton" h) ~) m) _. k6 _3 D1 {" T" `
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE % a' q. R. v. {- n3 ^! e	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 @- b& b9 M! d3 X8 m* v ]
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited3 y$ \, q: L" k$ E# w	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX " {3 ?4 y) @/ t' O* z! L8 ?" X8 V
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5; a" L7 B7 ^5 o# @' Z7 u' ?	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX , I9 m; e" v/ \|/ b X, ~; L
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 5 Q6 W; k$ ^) v' Q/ S5 k8 B( Z+ f	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX1 z8 i( P4 \|& ^& I) T% x
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE. [. C$ M m4 W2 J' R	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 t. X( W3 X: y$ S8 K: X
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE# h) Z3 ^9 \|2 V4 u9 `	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ( F, \) `" W5 `1 }7 k2 U6 e0 _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE$ _0 K1 Z8 t; c" k8 ~	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE [7 p5 Q* z0 B! Q# \6 o
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited / P( n. Z( B [7 G0 Z& @/ L	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 8 d( M3 B% {: B2 g
• 2004 Toyota Prius ! A4 v" N/ j( {" {; A; g4 {9 k	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE A$ e" \1 }) h7 u
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 3 z" N$ Q8 [/ [ j0 Z4 U& \|	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE2 k- A8 V; j* L( z9 ~9 J7 e
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 0 K: Y5 `/ C' _$ A	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5" s8 h6 ^9 R: q8 [: d$ u
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE/ D0 M& J/ y( P2 T; V2 e- O, \|- L	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 ^5 n8 b. E* S& e- u4 h* `
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited6 x- \|: d$ E4 L; W	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE " b- [ j3 T3 G3 \
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited+ C. J. E$ s4 Q& _/ w4 G% O	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE : l! M' r" V' b$ x/ C# W" M/ J: v }
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE $ G( b" f% N& a0 U' p9 Q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX& D, V( a2 a- q
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE & p! M; V% \! Y+ r6 X	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE ! T$ q- O$ Q9 L" A" _
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE ' e3 u$ ^- }" i9 \|0 C	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac 8 n' x% Q/ E2 P( o) ~, K# }. ~
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited0 M; o g+ C* t% \" a0 W0 Y	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ?5 i3 u/ r+ x; @# `4 I! p/ i8 }3 K
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 6 v! F1 ?, \) E. r5 _ E	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ! e& A y3 J, B- X, {4 a
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner$ \6 \' X5 ]* T/ ~# a	• 1992 Toyota Corolla : \|' A; z* Q7 ? m
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S * O: @- ^8 i+ q4 v5 C e8 m; a	• 1992 Toyota MR2 " c3 G5 u% _! X; g
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # w! l% n: h/ M8 g	• 1992 Toyota Pickup " T* h& }5 d9 W H
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5" y5 x3 r. s4 M0 C) {	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX$ d% }, i0 i0 b
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS+ z! r, Z* A" R4 ?	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac. o9 z) [* p3 t9 N* }
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + S- [! ^, C: b( y, Z4 C	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5. M, S: b0 }1 h7 y: h6 t" W; s; c0 `
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S 6 n+ \|2 Q1 _4 o	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX0 G$ o5 p( Y0 i. R
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited " [' L {- c7 C* D. u# ]2 S- C	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5$ H) x) z% y4 Z' \- X2 z" h* x( b
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner / F5 j# R2 L/ Q0 E! W& S/ u- c	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 A# k# z" [9 r
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 : ? L: k+ r7 G2 _* G, G, b* y	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof( b" s4 p8 ]! e8 [" w4 p
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 O& G1 }4 m2 e6 k4 C! M	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE* f- N# _3 Q5 S. C$ c6 w
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE ( Y) Y6 j3 n$ R/ f6 x	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5* s1 q( A" K5 a
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT5 @: X: m" g; H$ z' I1 `* d0 N	• 1991 Toyota Camry ! R q3 N: b% d6 g, O
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE! Z# a- q) Y% N6 m9 o	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser / V4 L0 G3 Z# r+ O+ q: [* q
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ; p: v+ z3 T9 \|6 Z1 c' {1 R% \|	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 3 T: R, h! C3 z4 {
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 2 T0 d8 t' v ?$ I: u	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX % z7 R+ Z0 D7 H/ u
• 2003 Toyota Tundra a7 i3 F) s: F, r0 y7 \|+ }	• 1991 Toyota MR2 2 E; g0 m8 Z: \0 m0 E4 y
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE: V- ?# M# d% O3 }" l. F	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 U+ _- v4 P' Q" Z) ^$ P4 z
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 3 G* z* N- \|2 s7 w/ f; t- v! Q" V% `3 ?	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX% O5 B' T6 Z) M; i6 P/ x/ C
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE5 c2 n! m5 N! f/ R) [. U5 l	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac* d2 {5 \|& K+ P/ N
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR59 t) Z: V X9 b/ Z0 k* d	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac % T0 f8 y; u* ^) P
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE0 D: `! x7 j* D; r) I% Q- K	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof1 k3 s! E" d2 a# Y6 y
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE# U+ `' R8 @1 z& Z, K% s	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX! ^2 H# I% m$ q2 ^- \+ O+ F
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited 8 X2 w& ?( d2 \|3 ]% Q1 z	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE 1 a0 F1 \|+ s, o6 G8 B3 y% A
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited- C( H/ z c2 l+ [2 X	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 2 f3 k! O: F7 Z: @. o) {. @( e
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited$ y1 b; C4 ?; _	• 1990 Toyota Pickup ! c% D/ x7 E; a& h) f( t% H
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 7 ?6 X& p! d) e! ]/ K4 { E1 W a	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ! L7 T3 V% V+ b- j, F7 [" ~2 r
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE4 }( `! _: f2 J# @/ ]' o	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5- \" J, e2 ?: M3 V) f9 S5 ~8 w
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited: \/ y7 a1 c4 i% u4 C	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ $ A& J, E0 F' J
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE 6 s; A2 u- J. v& W	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT * ^' h; E% l4 ?4 }- O3 e
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT # x, {3 [" Z0 k9 s6 }; m( V9 N2 I$ @	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base0 I, H. q% H6 X5 }# Q m0 x+ j
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner$ ?& a7 h4 j7 R	• 1990 Toyota Camry 4 o3 f6 w8 D! A) `1 D7 b( E
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S / J) L/ L1 F6 V	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST2 X; h! A% M1 `
• 2002 Toyota Highlander & `* }% Q4 x4 V4 Q! v9 u	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX1 V9 s7 w' \|, d& m. ~5 {# c( E
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; @2 p e' ] ^$ ]$ ~) D	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX/ k8 h" \|/ h$ x5 d; f8 x. n( [8 `
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5* Y0 t; \, u4 ?	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR58 f& g3 c8 ?4 U3 Q8 j. N( w% ?; j! R
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 A T5 }* r" y& [5 C	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS3 A1 w0 t* d9 ~
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE) Z5 H, O6 k! ?( q	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser * `2 z# c2 B' A7 N
• 2002 Toyota Prius ' ]+ {. A' d+ A5 _, ]# W, R	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton/ X% x, n/ ^* ? W4 ?
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 1 o6 I( h) B' T+ E2 r! q! s	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX1 y* K; t; q' U0 K J
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS & T0 t, A8 b* j" s6 G	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ' f" P4 W+ g7 u3 X* m" h# i
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE( K$ R. a& x( z }! y3 N	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac 8 I; f+ f# _ h& x: _$ k
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma * o; \3 n$ w3 ]5 q: d	• 1990 Toyota Tercel - v* _( I) M( F, ]
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 6 b* A! T! n8 a( p	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac! e" Q/ p9 X. v
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE - A( G" `1 d! J$ n# a* e	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac & b7 j5 b! b! y" h5 i/ }
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE( C, c$ m+ Z4 h/ h	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger - q' b; z$ d" x* z0 a( m5 H! G$ a
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL $ ^4 t" U; R' }	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base # W$ N: l: v6 F* s, y0 m H+ ^1 G
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited . w0 H* u! U# y	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac/ m) D- c1 n. ]5 \|2 R7 z
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT3 l1 K; ~! J+ A( o: V3 e; z	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser - }" \5 d6 y u" r9 m
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE + `9 y1 p& s, l; B( }& C6 d	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE ) J* U" z' [9 W/ U k! {( E
• 2001 Toyota Prius / U! t. @# v# k' N3 G, j* }& \|	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX ! `$ X8 C" S4 p9 o; K
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma : q M' S1 ^/ Z% z* z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 3 g) y& F1 D- l: @
• 2001 Toyota Tundra $ \|; ?2 }, o+ d; T/ m& S	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger : U0 k4 q: a0 j' w
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE 7 g& }+ z x8 s' G4 Q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 c7 h) [! j# I' w" \$ d
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited " r3 a5 G/ U4 ^( h7 B" \" t% }	• 1989 Toyota Camry z0 H+ }& z$ i* D
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 p8 D2 G9 y( v) e! i	• 1989 Toyota Tercel " d7 \& H' j" Y, S5 S P
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE" ]- y3 F' p+ h( u/ A& L	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX % `$ {$ V1 P. W% S; S. h+ h
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE3 c0 E' S+ v& ^5 A. b	• 1989 Toyota Pickup & b) l: L9 k2 n
• 2001 Toyota ECHO + ^7 K4 P2 a9 B# x. \|0 w; j- r	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 + K T0 [2 h$ q6 C( ]
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS! R& p' f$ H( Z7 w2 Z& `: Q	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger" D+ a# Y6 T( M7 W) f
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE * y l: r8 J6 @2 h7 j7 j	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ8 Q: j6 _$ F' j( I! ~/ ]. h
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 s9 C) e' r* c: u/ s	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel ( {+ _ C/ c6 V% c1 N, D2 g
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner l: [! J! z. }, p2 n# h4 N2 O* J	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX7 Z+ V+ \|; L6 t: w$ M5 F5 F; \
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS( C7 a' u0 k [( {0 L	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ - ~& w) n( \|6 s0 F ]5 n* {, \|, v" ]
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S" M1 p: K! M6 I! R" l3 a* M6 w' j	• 1988 Toyota Camry 7 R5 B6 I7 s1 ^! _. d, l
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. _" k! o5 }! J" }	• 1988 Toyota Pickup $ ]1 }3 \|& V; Q. e2 k
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5: k% @3 J% m, m, `	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger3 y# ?2 N* G8 T7 k' \|5 E4 f3 \|
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 6 F' t7 ~8 F% W7 L% E. v5 O	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX & Y% \|/ I' r1 t; C. ~* a7 W( h
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 0 n, {9 k2 ?& o	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 M; a% ^! ^1 }
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited) o; ~3 X* x( p	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 8 b3 S! b" i4 x1 k) @! }
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 4 }0 b# o, Y4 ^% ^8 `- Y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger' n2 w; \|! U9 V6 }: H
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma / f" m" H* \$ h. k	• 1988 Toyota Tercel # d7 T' f1 {/ ~% M
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT - c& `7 ?( Q* c2 a) j	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE2 e# k- M9 w4 g0 F
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE . \|+ J/ D$ E* L" g9 ?! ~" O8 \|	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window( {3 C7 [5 a. A% U
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 ' a( v% q: y$ O) V/ o	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton/ f1 F- e( V$ _% G& e, E
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" Y4 _/ G6 E- S; ^) v: `+ F* K	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ; q+ Q+ V& u2 U
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 }( @# U& u2 W7 n' e6 l J	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5, }; x, n2 o! _5 T( P6 b
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited . p1 n3 e* y4 I	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger& E! Q0 j- Q, } E
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE . Y1 j* h* \|/ i& F X	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B 1 y2 G- n) O. N
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 7 c, T- h8 V l	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 1 U" X5 T8 g- m& m& g5 Y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 0 ~. x0 {. w# H) E- C	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger - [" a: a4 r* \|1 v' ~
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara # g p# m# p2 Q5 g	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 g& o: H2 K p: H
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited" K; y1 A% X; x; B; R8 e$ c8 U	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX( s4 \|+ r E. U
• 2000 Toyota Tundra % b" D8 z- v! f3 {) ?8 C	• 1988 Toyota Van LE3 e$ y: G' C" `7 U3 a2 v
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ~2 l8 c# @# T$ n, `; F. a# e	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ! g! q3 u. V$ e) s
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE + p( ?# s5 [% R9 o- k* O	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR59 l3 e- Z( {7 ?6 @/ n& R
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited' ^- g3 @: m5 f3 j	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE1 W) i4 i: N7 d, C3 o3 I" U
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner # x. m: L, ]* f3 k( _+ d	• 1987 Toyota Van DX 2 d4 [8 v: x1 N0 n% m6 O* ?
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 1 X( Q. W( u% N# P& r2 j	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window. X: b7 ]* G% {
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( _* ~1 M& U0 z& x	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton( q4 P; W! }6 k# M% d+ {' F
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE& s) {0 \|* k+ P; i/ t: G	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR57 o, @ X7 F P! l" ]; v2 D
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL. C0 _5 z8 C7 ]- _	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX 8 t' o" N& @0 K2 W
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 9 T: R% w& y% N9 T7 O	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ' V% ~# v4 E$ s
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE+ Y; Q- p3 [. q	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 7 X9 f- t% k0 R2 \|# e
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR55 a) e1 s+ Q) I2 \|0 z* R	• 1987 Toyota Van LE: Q+ z& O ~8 V: G5 z0 R1 \$ \5 k
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE: P( w$ J& @) f# K# {3 \|	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel8 x; N$ a' e5 [$ Q9 W1 j
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE ( s& f( h/ J7 P* {$ j+ V	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX % e. P8 Y; F2 ~; A( x( U, k7 S
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 3 L+ P( P& m+ o) G7 G) ]0 p! Y	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 6 f: f6 _: Z' J: J# F
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS 3 c" R6 B% V3 j( S: q9 o	• 1986 Toyota Van LE 5 z0 }) `4 _" v, z; P8 f5 ^7 B8 d
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 6 I4 \|, S: J4 t" c	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser ! p5 ~. n% F1 k0 N* V& c
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 ?3 ?0 u! b9 z! y! r( F2 G; d	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel 2 k2 D `1 B$ p7 _* ^( _5 m
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 L, J n3 x) s! C8 \|' T3 U1 q \|& b4 T	• 1986 Toyota Van DX " j% c& f) O% }5 ^
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited$ h2 R1 V$ s; u7 }	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window: g3 l% Y& \% m$ G+ H# } E/ B( j, `
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE% r/ d* D, W6 V. {1 k	• 1985 Toyota Van ; q! n( O* S" q7 `8 f* n" l
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE % j9 a, ]( U: T# M2 `! Z% E	• 1985 Toyota Van LE- f+ j1 G% s. q0 B f
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL% S! G P; q% D0 ]% f/ R) u: Y8 j	• 1985 Toyota Van DX3 ^2 @0 G" m) N
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE+ i' h& f. o: t) [5 z' r	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser % v1 t& Z8 T; x$ Q& ?& p' \' c- K
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited - V5 R% J3 Y6 S& F+ Q" X* Z	• 1984 Toyota Van DX9 ]! k" ^/ Y) {8 s- i9 v, j
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE $ V1 R( ]/ ]# c, z) c) v	• 1984 Toyota Supra ' F! W5 X6 {9 w* i6 ^) H
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE: a- B0 @4 _, W# ?	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX2 ^: I( n& T9 r9 y# X% n0 L/ V, t
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE; [5 S3 D: C: y# D/ [+ x: l6 X	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser * N0 ?9 y. T' L s, G: x: _
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited2 C1 W2 e6 \|9 e( W* s	• 1984 Toyota Cressida # W+ d8 Q' m7 L3 m
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS ! b7 b) o. C, ^! f7 {7 d	• 1984 Toyota Van $ X! i* z% c# C) f; E. D. ^
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE . {+ b/ U5 J* u/ c) _	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ' ^# N/ ~, d( P, d
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner # [5 E; }- l/ h, c6 o% \|	• 1984 Toyota Van LE* I* o8 R' d% ]' B0 g1 N
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE4 w/ h2 K% ]2 q! J	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE, O x1 q! A# \|; o- O1 r
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX2 E8 \|' U2 Z( H, B( G	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 ( A# E/ O; B4 \/ Q) v+ s' v- z
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5$ Z% \|% r% \|2 F	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX$ r+ h x& ]3 n! Q0 y! F; p
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE - \/ a+ n; J6 ^	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 7 c, r: Q0 Q. c% \|
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 8 m; i4 l. O" f* s	• 1983 Toyota Supra # u4 p8 l. G: \
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 2 k7 ]) K% z! z6 J4 t) y	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 m6 }6 R" h% j
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL5 ?4 W8 [6 r4 x. b6 \3 ~	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX- R4 w# n7 h5 a
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE. L6 j; J% P! I+ R; S7 X	• 1983 Toyota Cressida , A+ x( V; W; `: z3 s
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ ]# b5 o$ s6 P	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT ) Z( h1 V0 F! D: g2 `9 x- `
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ) h- Y/ R/ r- S	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser ( e0 ~9 \|) W& G4 Y8 R' ?
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 3 B; v( h% \|* y* x: z5 H	• 1982 Toyota Cressida Z% z5 @8 S7 f! c. C
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE: K, y7 @( y& c9 F9 p	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX $ ?2 ]: {, \+ k M, F. b! [- m
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 / u" k6 `2 l- {) j* G	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 3 u/ I" D& ` A9 L% Y9 k+ r4 g, z
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR56 g, \' \" V! R, C* t) o- w	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 3 R4 y7 \|- Z# w: [
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX, P. t' F2 E/ k& G8 T, R1 g! d	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5) w. P' H. {, i. ~8 b
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 9 H3 g/ Z# d# d+ ~ R5 p	• 1981 Toyota Tercel . I; ?2 b' \|+ j2 I3 ^6 I6 L
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS' e6 {) z m& t- g3 T' j) p, ?	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 - S: e4 s* n7 Y
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX + G" ~3 u# G3 Y' a	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser : d% n" F% ~
• 1997 Toyota T-100 # i. }4 t1 o! N7 k( y. d' L4 c	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX " E; m7 n. j: a, `. p+ ~8 Q( R
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited) s7 O4 a: F# h, b; @* V$ r& W }	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 9 T) e$ ^+ B8 [, {& U
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 6 h2 @) y; A4 O! _0 V	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT$ I+ z6 r0 y* o n$ Q. V6 f
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5+ y/ s! L2 ^ U% f0 C	• 1980 Toyota Corolla & w: W. ~3 y+ G! y, [
• 1997 Toyota Corolla 6 C3 Q( v& l% [6 X$ G4 `( g( Q	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 Z' j6 D; K) F2 q% c
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ) N3 I) E! Q- \* P1 b4 m	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe - E, ?, J/ m/ M: m4 w! E5 E
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL6 U* U4 _5 i* @- y: s, k( T, \2 j+ y	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX * L$ C3 s6 a) E& j5 U
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE1 x4 E3 f8 F$ T6 ^) J' k+ i	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST 2 A( Q/ @9 q+ C
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner `6 z4 y- O$ `% U4 v	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury2 a! [) q9 k' o, l
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE * c9 S% z$ u$ A5 x. Z! ]- K7 C	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 7 y- {2 E2 `1 [* Y, d0 \! \|
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 7 T5 h- m+ ^) O0 G( F6 k6 p- d	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR54 z9 b3 U& R& D" P7 Q7 q
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX: n' [( S9 D5 k	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe8 \8 ? E+ B+ R' g
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE + W2 j6 f1 y& w* r- ^% R	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 2 I- d8 `+ T9 f/ E, H/ f4 a7 a
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 J& r2 q. l1 r: S8 X

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
. H- Y y: I: f+ D! v6 T1 ~8 @Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
" N* n- {+ T: V! T" X! u• 1997 Toyota Camry CE+ ?2 v: H6 ~0 e) [% J# ^
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 ) j5 v* G; Q% F( P' B1 o
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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- E4 O7 d" w/ {' N( B5 x( |佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。) Q1 j: P2 ^& Q ^

4 b+ C: M% {( D' ^由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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/ _3 k+ u, _) I; i1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
' Q0 h7 m! N6 n2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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