送外卖，不给小费正常吗？

My2cents

原帖由 francais 于 2006-11-26 16:31 发表
: L/ I( ]) @: K1 ~$ p, t有个朋友送外卖，说有人不给小费，或者几毛钱。咋办？ 跟老板说有用吗？都说爱民屯人nice，我看不如蒙城人nice。那边小费一般都是10－15％左右。再说这大雪天送外卖多不容易呀，竟然不给小费。帮朋友问问有没有 ...

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It seems that you didn't do delivery job in Montreal ever. Some gave 50 cents tips too in Montreal. I has nothing to do with places but it does have something to do with the person.

蓝海

原帖由 qwyes 于 2006-11-26 19:34 发表
' O* P! \) T+ U1 o+ A4 d% C7 v我很想问 飘飘 一句,alberta有哪条法律规定必须给小费了?你那样的问顾客是很不礼貌的(为什么就给一元小费),顾客只要把bill付清就可以了,如果你是饭店的manager,你的员工看到不给足消费的顾客就上去追问,你怎么办 ...

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但是据说做服务行业的人缴税的时候，政府已经把你的小费收入算进去了，所以拿不到小费的确让服务员气愤。

又见炊烟

我觉得这要看他知不知道，我今天陪客人去买东西，在车上大家说起乘出租车要给小费，一位客人就不解地问：“坐出租车还要给小费呀？”不排除有些人刚来真的不知道这里的习惯，这种情况下不如点点他们，让他们知道这里服务行业一般都有收小费的习惯。当然也不排除有些人明明知道，看到是中国人就尽欺负的，以前我就听接机的老朱说过，有些中国人叫外国人开的出租车都乖乖给小费，但找中国人接送就从来不给小费，理发也是如此，你说这是何必呢？

如是我闻

原帖由 qwyes 于 2006-11-26 19:34 发表
# ?: t' w4 }- a# E0 v. @还有不要以为老外会作错算术,他们最大的能耐就是把假话说的和从心里说的一样.和老外时间久了,你们就能发现了.

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兔宝宝

不给小费很正常.因为没有硬性规定要顾客给你小费.我觉得给不给小费不完全取决你的服务好坏,而是取决与顾客本人.

这世界什么人都有,有人不给你,我想,有的人给你的也超过了你的期望.所以说,没有什么正常与不正常.有的只是心里的期许.

Zhujiaolian

偶送餐時給就拿著，不給就拉倒，不知道有什麼硬性辦法可以讓人給小費(損招其實也有，不過還是不要傳播為好)。在美國紐約不給小費有危險，因為各色工會會強制客人付給小費的。好在偶的老板很不錯，每送一趟給一塊補貼。
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Zhujiaolian

原帖由 足三里 于 2006-11-26 21:59 发表
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另外，打听一下，阿差是什么物事？

據說是對印巴人的俗稱。

wpbaby

不给小费的比较少，一般一个晚上会碰到1个2个，给现金的基本上都有小费，最少也有 50cents 或 DOLLAR，
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$ i5 ~3 q3 m' s  g; B小费 与送餐的远近没有关系，与服务好坏关系不大，与外卖的价格也没有关系，主要是看个人。
4 h$ r* ]" V# h! J$ j5 e如果送得很远没有消费，直接同客户说 服务有什么问题，为什么没有小费？
白人也有很扣的，印巴人最差，中国人很少定餐。
如果是刷卡，刷卡后直接问客户输入多少 TIPS（金额高时，估计客户不会给多少小费时）。呵呵，老外也要脸的。
我真的很气愤地时候，会在他门前常按三声 喇叭！！！！

蓝色闪蝶

wpbaby有个性！

独在异乡为翲客

原帖由 qwyes 于 2006-11-26 19:34 发表
7 c- }, l6 I$ l/ k# X我很想问 飘飘 一句,alberta有哪条法律规定必须给小费了?你那样的问顾客是很不礼貌的(为什么就给一元小费),顾客只要把bill付清就可以了,如果你是饭店的manager,你的员工看到不给足消费的顾客就上去追问,你怎么办 ...

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% q0 q  C/ ^  X; h1 Q8 r* a飘飘这样做是很有道理的. 我在美国做餐馆的时候, 领班就是这样教我们: 客人不给小费, 一般就是不满意你的服务, 所以你应当问清楚什么地方出问题了. 这里头没有中国人想的那种要别人好看的意思, 因为小费是理所当然的, 不需要用法律来规范的. 在中国过年的时候, 小孩向一个年纪大的人说”恭喜发财”, 而得不到红包时, 他是不是有理由问对方”您是不是还没结婚?”

benq

原帖由 francais 于 2006-11-26 16:31 发表
: X8 ?; _6 c8 L6 \; }; u有个朋友送外卖，说有人不给小费，或者几毛钱。咋办？ 跟老板说有用吗？都说爱民屯人nice，我看不如蒙城人nice。那边小费一般都是10－15％左右。再说这大雪天送外卖多不容易呀，竟然不给小费。帮朋友问问有没有 ...

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elle

原帖由 蓝海 于 2006-11-26 21:49 发表
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2 r5 O4 L) W: S" P- [) c; ]0 K但是据说做服务行业的人缴税的时候，政府已经把你的小费收入算进去了，所以拿不到小费的确让服务员气愤。

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黑金

问题是有的人也给小费，可只给2％或3％，你说他到底是满意你的服务呢还是不满意？这时候你总不能去问吧？而且经常有老外满嘴说着太好吃了，最后不给小费，所以只能把不给小费的原因归结为他就没打算给，而不是服务不好。

faint

不是说小费都是现金收入不用缴税的么

qwyes

原帖由 独在异乡为翲客 于 2006-11-26 22:50 发表
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飘飘这样做是很有道理的. 我在美国做餐馆的时候, 领班就是这样教我们: 客人不给小费, 一般就是不满意你的服务, 所以你应当问清楚什么地方出问题了. 这里头没有中国人想的那种要别人好看的意思, 因为小费是 ...

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请你别忘记这里是CANADA,不是STATES,我也在餐馆做过洗碗工,但是作为洗碗工却没有小费可以拿的,只是在月底象征性的发个几块钱作为小费,而那些前面的waitess,只要是她招呼的顾客,小费都是她自己的,她从来没有说分一个子给你,所以顾客不给小费,当然是她们最急.   

9 K# y& X, }$ v0 P9 c还有,一般的服务员都是在客人买单前询问"菜怎么样,满意吗?", 从来没有说在客人付完钱后追着后面问的,你这样做,当然会让人反感.

faint

这么多人都在餐厅工作呀，介绍下有什么好吃的好不好？

U-boat

TIPPING GUIDE (FROM CNN)
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Waiter/waitress: 15% of bill (excl. tax) for adequate service; 20% for very good service; no less than 10% for poor service
Headwaiter/captain: often gets a cut of table server's tip; so tip your server extra to reward captain, or tip captain separately
Sommelier, or wine steward: 15% of cost of the bottle
Bartender: 15% to 20% of the tab, with a minimum of 50 cents per soft drink, $1 per alcoholic drink
5 h9 a2 n- S: L( u$ g* ]# eCoatroom attendant: $1 per coat
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DAILY LIFE
Taxi driver: Varies depending on locality. Assume 15% will be enough; an extra $1 to $2 for help with bags.
Food delivery person:* 10% of the bill (excl. tax), at least $1 for bills up to $10. Should tip 15%-20% for a difficult delivery.
Grocery loader: Check with store policy if tips are accepted. If so, $1 for bringing bags to car; $1.50 to $3 if you have more than 3 bags.
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Staff at coffee/food retailers with tip jars: No tip required. It's completely optional.
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2 p! i9 D. ?1 _* Mike Lynn, associate professor of consumer behavior at the Cornell Hotel School suggests tipping pizza delivery folk a minimum of $2 per pizza. His reasoning: Food delivery can be dangerous if delivering to crime-ridden neighborhoods or driving in bad weather, etc. The Web site www.tipthepizzaguy.com suggests the following: 15% for normal service, with a $2 minimum; 20% for excellent service; 10% or less for poor service; at least 10% for orders of $50 or more. Don't assume a delivery charge, if there is one, goes to the pizza deliverer. Ask the person who takes your order.
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Skycap at airport: $1 per bag if you check-in curbside; $2 per bag if skycap takes bags to check-in counter.
Hotel doorman: $1 per bag for help with luggage; $1 per person for hailing a cab
Hotel bellhop: $1 per bag for bringing luggage to your room (but a $2 minimum if you have just one bag)
Hotel housekeeper: $2 to $5* per night
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$ W5 L+ Y) |  H6 v% ZCruise: Varies. Ask cruise line about customary gratuities.

wang3yi

原帖由 qwyes 于 2006-11-27 00:04 发表



4 k! |# g, S0 Z: I. X请你别忘记这里是CANADA,不是STATES,我也在餐馆做过洗碗工,但是作为洗碗工却没有小费可以拿的,只是在月底象征性的发个几块钱作为小费,而那些前面的waitess,只要是她招呼的顾客,小费都是她自己的,她从来没 ...

+ y# m* O8 B3 o0 K/ S我们有时候有可能害羞一点，我一个老外朋友，在希腊餐馆打工的时候， 因为一个客人只付了10%的小费，还追到外面问对他的服务是否满意，因为好的老外的餐馆一般要15%-20%。他一般周日晚上6点到12点打工， 小费的收入差不多100-200加元。还有他们一般会分给后面一些tips的。

U-boat

Some people consider 10% tip is suficient. As you may notice from the guide, it is actually an insultation if the service wasn't bad.  

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北极熊

付小费是应该的，就好比在餐馆消费一样。
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OliveOil

原帖由 qwyes 于 2006-11-27 00:04 发表
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请你别忘记这里是CANADA,不是STATES,我也在餐馆做过洗碗工,但是作为洗碗工却没有小费可以拿的,只是在月底象征性的发个几块钱作为小费,而那些前面的waitess,只要是她招呼的顾客,小费都是她自己的,她从来没 ...

# A0 r" U5 [& y& {$ WFrom:  http://www.canadajournal.com/simp/mainpages/finance.html
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. j2 q$ j3 V; w在加拿大小费和服务费通常是不会计算在餐馆的帐单内，而餐馆的员公的小费占他们重大部分的人工。如果您满意他们的服务，惯常的小费是会给15%。自从国税实行之後，很多加拿大人都利用税前的总数来计算小费的多少。有些餐馆会收取服务，如果，您的人数是很大，餐馆的员工应该会在您点餐之前向您解释费用。

理发师、发形师或计程车司机都通常给15%的小费。而在旅馆、机场或火车也会以每件行李一元给协助的职员。
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紫禁城

我也巨恨阿差!一会就要去跟阿差管理员交涉明年能否顺利续租的事情了,好烦!曾经跟丫翻过脸,估计丫肯定会趁机报复,本想搬走,从此不再看那张黑漆漆的永远洗不干净的脸和那身臭懒肉,可无奈冰天雪地的,找房搬家太难了,唉,还是先忍忍吧

OliveOil

原帖由 elle 于 2006-11-26 23:24 发表

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街头传闻不可信

; [8 r) q$ d3 ^: X7 M2 @( A/ X' CFrom:
8 h6 t! u) f7 H$ Ghttp://www.unbf.ca/isao/handbook/tip.html

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  U/ G$ e: p' J3 D* S# p; h8 RTips or service charges are not added to the bill in a restaurant or hotel unless the management states that it is their specific policy to do so. However, a tip is expected as part of the salary of the waiter or waitress, or hotel employee. It is customary to tip 10-15% of the total bill, unless you are dissatisfied with the service for some reason. In that case, you can leave a smaller tip, or none at all, depending upon the circumstances. Tips are not expected in cafeterias or fast food places. Taxi drivers are also tipped 15% of the fare.

elle

原帖由 U-boat 于 2006-11-27 09:12 发表
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come on guys, what's the definition of the word GUIDE?

elle

原帖由 OliveOil 于 2006-11-27 10:55 发表
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...a tip is expected as part of the salary of the waiter or waitress, or hotel employee...

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猪刀小试

原帖由 elle 于 2006-11-27 10:57 发表
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come on guys, what's the definition of the word GUIDE?

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elle

well, just for clarification purpose

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i understand that the waiters/waitresses and other people in service expect to receive tips, in someway the more the better.

But GUIDE or EXPECTATION or COMMON PRACTICE are different from law.  
$ n9 o' M9 a/ ^. H, VTherefore for certain reasons some people don't pay tips, and that should also be accepted and even respected, though painfully.
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elle

原帖由 猪刀小试 于 2006-11-27 11:04 发表


3 k9 [8 P# o4 Z7 F" i7 X# C0 ^GUIDE=General Unbelievable Information DEfiniens

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猪刀小试

原帖由 elle 于 2006-11-27 11:07 发表

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oh, you are so smart!

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OliveOil

原帖由 elle 于 2006-11-27 11:00 发表
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/ A& m( ^% \/ Iwell, does it say anywhere this part of the "salary" is taxable?  and if yes, how is the calculation done?
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* g7 N: C$ R- P5 S  ESpecial tip reporting and allocation rules apply to what the IRS considers large food and beverage establishments. These rules require you to file some special information returns with the IRS that, in effect, allocate 8 percent of your gross receipts as tips to your employees, if the employees don't report at least that much in tips. The allocated tips must also be reported on each employee's W-2 form; however, you do not actually pay or withhold taxes on the allocated amounts. They are reported to the IRS for informational purposes only.
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  j* S( r+ i( z. b& B# pOr say TAX LAW/Regulations for those waitors and waitresses.

9 }. [* i- X* z2 P6 A: z! R: QPlease refer to PDF version of Taxable Income by the government.
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