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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞" j! s1 o9 U4 h( {" k1 z% ^, d+ {6 G) {9 P

2 {; t) r) f; h# P- u% D2 {  PBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
& u% P4 E% k8 WClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
/ p9 H- s! R9 x5 Y5 m+ a4 ^6 d# o(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).- B6 j' [) i5 W' D* f* z
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
' Q% J1 V/ j' p" P& U) w. b上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
, I* n0 g2 _. z! j/ e# _/ I' e她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
, D  ]4 e" Y/ h" b$ U4 I* kShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
# g1 o/ Y, J8 f3 W0 @but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,- N/ p; s4 d6 p5 C
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.# d4 {& T1 }8 m$ H! `2 ^- ^
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
% X4 B* D8 p; [4 O; [/ T$ rHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection7 H; z& O7 T7 H: G; R5 A( M
if we demand He leave us alone?"
& G* A: ?4 b: E6 }* P『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
  U; O, j; a& o; s. A只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
6 K: j# ~# w, S5 t2 ]& L$ e  k: A不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
. s" z8 @' r% ]8 j* f; D4 Z2 x上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。5 b6 W6 ^7 O$ d) a
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,9 L% X+ i& l5 z0 I2 b
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
& [/ R# d. j1 Z' w! y1 d. ]: eI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
; g" E8 w. ?7 dher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
4 [- j' ~: Y! k: f/ ^$ f$ r# cschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in) X; F$ H! o6 v9 q; O( y; R
school...
" S4 n. J0 A" G" bthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,0 D  T+ t$ x' y2 t& y; w) e
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
% m! c* W- t1 F7 N看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
8 c4 l6 x9 w" K. \0 I3 s我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
& j/ d9 S2 ^( O# `$ F3 m. J% c(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,2 t6 ~, L' k; d/ E$ {( I1 G, k9 f
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、4 G9 C1 z1 a* [6 e' S. A; p
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。9 c7 D( K$ o2 X9 J: h6 }- G
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
7 l+ g0 G5 \, ?% _9 gwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped: R8 J9 A$ ]; O: i
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed* O% w/ b9 @* T) t8 P
suicide)
9 Q4 u$ m: D" @We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
! D" K: D: p  T8 F9 X, V然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
6 q# G. X( n! L6 a7 S# g  {我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
& W* J* u+ ?) c# P! A5 z, E, q以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊; f- v% L6 |" X4 p& l" T
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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5 t4 y5 S7 B, {3 l6 n# [- ~: cThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our$ w1 c, R1 d/ |' S9 m( d- C* t
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member- [9 x: ]3 a7 c
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave& g8 a- P+ ]( u$ a
because we don 't want any bad publicity,% O0 [7 V6 i* }' [) z- N6 X
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
8 x9 q5 z! o2 e: N/ t: e& J% qbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,0 k5 p$ x& W( @0 ~# W% Z6 w7 V
etc.). And we said OK.
0 _3 t% c1 `- x/ o7 n然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
% d3 X2 s" w4 K% f老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
' \" K4 J: v0 _/ y; v% o教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,) U/ |. `, s  t. Q6 ~
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),  T: C+ ~, ?0 a+ U* ^" N
而大家同意了。
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: F0 A- G  B! aThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,# b! P1 d) `  @& T. Z" P& \
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
" l* E7 p, C, A. H& O/ X* [Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
( {0 }" ?+ c3 H- ?; h) F6 z2 a3 sand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
* ?, O7 M2 J2 [& D9 P& b! r7 Gthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,
! j$ @6 w- }9 `# k. v7 Qand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
7 ^% n9 x# D/ q5 @said OK.
' x0 x5 ^% r6 d) q然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,4 V% O. \; ]2 M- V% R- G
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
4 K% O  M7 c8 Z+ j: m然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
/ V' g2 m. t1 {1 m他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,9 [# s3 z: \, _% S4 U+ D4 w, n
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
" C) ?" G9 |: e  c5 h: F/ C他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。$ ?0 Q7 }- L3 ^9 L
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$ W1 k8 H" N/ S- P9 W1 I+ A2 nThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
3 a, U. M9 K. z4 g* A4 gwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,+ Q! Q& q) A, x, H. V
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
7 L  _( B4 ], ?+ f$ kdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.  s5 p: f, ?5 Q$ E- j& @& e) T
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
/ r" a5 I: i. {2 X8 j! E只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,! Y$ y3 o1 c: Z4 c/ f- b& m
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
  ~8 i2 O8 B: b1 A$ |1 f只要我有工作而且經濟看好。% b, S/ E! o9 e8 [) _  n
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women2 J: D0 n1 F) }$ Q
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
" M: a$ V" |4 B; l! m! z* r% o* u+ xof the female body. And we said OK.
* c* o3 t) y- D$ p4 f然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
+ h: d& r' U$ [! Z  t& {$ `+ d稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and% W$ p$ \( d$ E9 I
published pictures of nude children and then further again1 \3 w4 y6 R9 p
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK," m( i2 T9 o9 ^$ D$ R# t! [8 C$ B
they're entitled to free speech.
; b5 T% Q' [3 h" s( V) J! {  {$ x* t然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,& M: B  r1 M" y1 H# g) Y% k
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,: r% o4 _% Q  I
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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7 f& M* L4 ~# l* {# q% MThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
! I1 u" \6 e- s1 f+ g, T- Cthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music$ ~6 \) O2 d. E( r! h7 W! k2 y
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
8 o0 K5 _: S# Z1 ~# PAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,  [( K6 V( x" z* O3 ?6 j
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.8 k+ ?2 Q% E: Q) u
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、( y* R2 J- A7 N% A( [
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
8 J# S" `7 y: o! k* v8 J謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
) k. O8 L) G& \7 Z那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
$ l; J. F: l& o: o5 @why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them$ k! C  w6 v8 b
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,( p7 x5 s, s8 d' `* D) q- I
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.6 `6 Q& O+ w2 |' c; g3 d
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
% ?7 f3 l6 H# w3 Y/ c9 ?" r如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?7 L$ E' S9 r9 Z2 K4 [
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
% _6 w4 X* w( s% E7 ]. U* l! D為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
- [( [9 @: r- R2 [# J# v1 {假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。! \! e2 y" |% Q3 j; @' C7 c' d, p9 S
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。1 H6 P( g5 ]' y; i' @# B
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder* Y; b9 {- a' f4 x0 k+ [& U5 Z
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
* k$ ~+ d& ^& isay, but question what the Bible says.
) E; i( k; n" w6 I5 s: N實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
( o8 S/ D! R. n/ d' @, N; g. u實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。: D  E' _  l! Q* E/ N! H6 d4 H9 c
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% I2 Q& F- e$ t: |* m& O) YFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like+ J0 u% j" h1 Q3 M
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
+ h) A1 }+ j9 x$ Jpeople think twice about sharing.! R5 m% u, _5 b
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
. M0 z' D5 v* w6 ]$ r; E但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
- z, N; f" f& F) E. _, ^人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。6 K5 n5 f0 Q* B0 a
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
- W6 Z: N0 D1 Mthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed  `( F* G1 j/ q9 F& ?% E/ n2 \
in the school and workplace.
7 [8 `; Q) C# B. o6 M: C3 ^) L. c實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
  A5 l1 {5 E0 z0 M, O8 j透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
% V8 F% m( X. \! [8 [而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?
  t+ H' l4 }! X: ^. x2 U你笑了嗎?
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  |- c) ]+ F* S( T, h/ N9 UFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it- u/ x8 \* M0 r+ L% @
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
2 T+ T' I5 d: p4 Lor what they WILL think of you for sending it.
  ~2 y2 H9 u6 e: UFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us7 D( k3 W+ q' E: m( j" K
than what God thinks of us.9 {/ m4 s. ~* m
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
) w5 [: T7 O0 c; a/ _. l5 @$ f因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,9 A$ U2 y1 N% h8 M
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
  S  V) C) q: J6 R可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
( G4 p- t# J: U% o/ U; A而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。; z! e7 y* o7 e" f- o8 a' o

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6 m- G2 U# T  i6 y) fPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...# y$ s1 [+ u; f2 O! K# r' {" w3 T0 S
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't% `% R9 a- X! w2 V" `2 b( k
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!- a( W& H. V; o
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話7 p$ n" o& _5 k; t% d
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
! K3 n5 X7 g6 p  A但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
5 S5 v6 j* s! W' ^3 P! W5 l3 Q你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.7 R" `2 Q- r' H! J1 m
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0 E0 w( l5 U- P. `2 ~# Y+ V% Z' M上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
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发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。7 t6 R; I: R! b$ I
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶4 Z- Y+ A' m& w) P2 g
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。  w$ m- [2 Y, L
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
大型搬家
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了' P- v* v6 O3 o; s. k  B
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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. g7 r8 r6 E) P( p$ P. I社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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