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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.  _8 k& B0 s- z8 o

( y' L" o, E. D0 {- i3 HTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ; q6 d4 K9 }" ]# @4 Y+ z; `. p
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. , d/ ?7 d! V4 t+ C2 S5 {

' `, C, ^2 c- }8 K"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 8 s+ P6 x+ Y7 l* X

9 b8 I8 Q9 z8 e  RNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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+ J( r& R8 K* F7 [! [4 S2 Z4 _3 L+ K. ~"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 c& R/ E: \  \2 i' ^

( O  t3 O5 |& B4 A6 S+ l! R# [Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 0 S* X- z$ U2 [
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
) e& |  b/ N1 k8 d1 O/ _) d 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。  e1 S3 {; a5 |& X+ x! }6 o& }

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 % Y: q' o7 y0 k+ t; K7 H
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta7 a8 }1 L& Z, _: N
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
1 g2 @% W# S. H) I7 T! X% cboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2 R  c1 K5 t1 b2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household; `0 l. I4 W$ D* K# s
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
5 E( ~3 A- e1 s; l" Zfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,* O; L1 O# Q# o0 k3 v2 k
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
, W$ I7 R6 }) w+ Qmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous: v$ g; Y4 q7 H5 ], [/ I
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
4 ?6 R$ J1 ^% n( \+ xprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
  t) t9 e3 C) [$ y/ g$ qto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
6 ^/ J; w5 w& k3 k. h1 wprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this7 f+ x: K' ^7 l& c* ^
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
2 c& E, p1 ?1 v2 u1 mhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
# M8 |2 ]& g) S2 D30,000 new households will form in the province during
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Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( i  `2 Y+ I, c
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new, t/ {* r  F, k- W5 B% @& r
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals& Y  |+ q2 F$ y& m; n3 T
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging, N/ B4 _0 @0 c2 H9 k; x; q3 o
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of* d, S( u; N. N
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a7 x% X0 k# z+ j& s! A9 \  x
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
- b" `# Q8 Q2 W  p* X& e7 v& Z* hbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
% ]) b8 a3 P( y; l  Q1 @; ~two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
' \/ `" g* f/ q& a( Nunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
: l2 ~8 f( F6 e# |/ |. N  qunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest$ f- u/ J# |+ O  K# A6 J8 L
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the/ S2 g. Z, L( i& s5 w
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled! |, O  _4 V, w! ]+ C' }
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
" D0 r- Q. O. H. H) F9 Y# l1 I& DThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s3 w7 v6 @. B6 \
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.% t1 M/ H- m2 V
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan1 E( R3 Q  N0 I/ p& w8 g
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced( s* U5 K6 @+ W* j; J
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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: {. h- o! d( O6 o) yThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average) i6 t: n, q: L
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
0 K) d9 z) }6 Wexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
1 C8 {* A; b& D, B7 |homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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; ^0 h; r/ i- `+ o4 \  CAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
( |' l2 B- v3 e# fAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. % v! {, {7 D& O: K6 ^, U3 [
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子/ d. \% [( X, M; O" t8 ?1 L* ?
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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