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合同工和正式工,如果最后收入相等,工资比例应该是多少?

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鲜花(345) 鸡蛋(0)
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:19 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
summer_tina 发表于 2013-3-14 17:10
$ U+ M) u8 {7 k' `' N* l嗯,很多牛人。的确是。+ g" `" Q4 W& T( [% ^4 g5 ]
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当然,也有混的啦

( f9 m, r+ n, R7 o我看到的合同工还都有些本事,大小之分,混子还没看到过。
鲜花(345) 鸡蛋(0)
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-14 21:31 # |: W+ ], B9 j  |, y% M1 x2 n
my landlord's wife, she is a contractor( PDMS designer) in an engineering company, pay is very good, ...

  _+ }: ~# B% g$ z那么你是没有试用期吗?
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:51 | 显示全部楼层
Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel insurance; J4 |: h) F. m# m
card, if I visit china, US, cover accident. My medicine is 100% cover, I got them. the glasses $250, sate shoe, $150, message $500/year, foot pads, $400, clean teeth and filled, 100% cover, since tomorrow,
. u8 V$ A3 h  @& f6 ]I will enjoy my benefits, I select the Sunday overtime. Normally, 3 months, but I worked 1 week, they gave
& ^/ Z0 C& Q; B$ dme these card, filled RRSP form, I never ask them, interview, I only ask wage, other I didn't ask.About low EQ
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:58 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-14 08:32
3 ~6 m, X* ?9 P# C5 {$ Z$ K还有心态,运气。而往往心态会影响运气。( y- Q1 W* O: T3 w" R/ y$ D7 r

* O; v* Z' `8 P6 d3 z& n- ~4 e& i你这里说的能力,不光是技能方面的能力,更重要的是EQ的能力 ...

/ j; N+ e( B7 S' O/ gIn canada, there are many opportunities to test EQ.
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:33 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 17:51
- E8 O3 O  x6 y  t/ y! M: U) A5 @Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel in ...

6 D1 r' A( S2 {. Q其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:43 | 显示全部楼层
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 18:33
1 z  z* }: E$ C( V+ l其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.

5 O8 A/ S4 K& X  @% ~, }no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,. J8 f& U( x8 q1 U1 {  H* o
I like vwry much, it is free, only RRSP reduce from my pay, employer pay 6%.
4 T& j+ j! J- ^5 A7 w0 L3 gTomorrow, I will do message, nothing pay, I show my benefit card, they take your NO,$ H& M/ K! C9 _. _& u
ask insurance company pay, no me!
6 d3 b4 m7 v3 [/ q4 B% PWhy not? I go to Wal mart, $250 plus exam fees, all the insurance company pay!
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:13 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
自己做,啥都没有的路过!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
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marie 发表于 2013-3-15 18:43 3 \- ^& p- M+ s
no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,
2 o) ]* F* _, N3 f* j  n' T8 @I like vwry much, it i ...

! O; k3 Y2 E; I  Z: x5 N5 |& q" x你还是没有理解我的话.: _5 T4 ^( s5 t9 f

1 E5 c; j5 L+ ]/ O  nContrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.9 H& Z# I5 e# @6 [& D
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而employee把该到手的钱变成这些福利了,这不是强迫消费是什么?9 l& r1 W9 w- l6 t- ]0 y0 I  y
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象这些,给了我,我都不会去消费的,那换成钱,到自己口袋里,想怎么花就怎么花.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:48 | 显示全部楼层
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 ) }: w8 u5 p$ c  w
你还是没有理解我的话.3 r1 U4 v4 C" |* m/ a

! r" C0 I/ o6 |3 `/ \0 F1 V  zContrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

2 C5 Q( y$ F- s& @( d& X  f2 wclasses, every 2 years I must change, RRSP I buy it every year,  I every day eat medicine, clean teeth
9 N+ ^; l- ^# Q! N0 o8 _% @every 6 months, filled, I changed 6 teeth, teeth treat, expensive. message, facing I like to do. If i happened
# G) C0 x9 }! ?/ G  x1 Baccident, my daughter will get compensation. no more charge me, I like. I enjoy.
5 w" q4 p! g5 U; |In the future, i would like to try a contractor position. Now, they need me, I keep this position.0 J4 |/ \4 n% N  m  s/ S4 r
how long, I don't know.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:14 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19
9 r; A5 h. c: H你还是没有理解我的话.
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

& ~4 D+ B# _/ F' Z四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must pay by myself. I had heavy sick, on time eating medicine, keep to work, health is the more and more better.
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:32 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 + X+ z1 Q) _8 e8 L1 I% x- a. T4 t
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...
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姐姐的这种情况,不适合做CONTRACTOR,真的!
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 21:15 | 显示全部楼层
my positions always are perm! my best position are in Wichita,KS, US, manufacturing engineer, in aerospace
, }* O5 ~" F3 Y3 V% uarea, because of I have not US greencard ,US citizen, I cann't work long term! In Houston, design engineer
& Z, {9 V2 P) \# ca single office, for my daughter, I quited this good job, come back AB, driving a car about 4 days. Then,) n( e* W# a* ]# _, i( W% f* U% Y
come in Ontario, picked up my daughter to Edmonton from Ontario.
6 r' b; }2 l2 z$ g10 years ago, I was a labor in KUS canada, 12 hours shift, 6:00am to 6pm, or 6pm to 6am, after  6 months I moved to winsor, KUS closed down! In Windsor I started professional position.1 R; G" Q# O6 V( G  n* O# U
Now, I am the better than 10 years ago. passed many difficults, I still are health, happy, modern and young( look young)
; V" O8 E) W5 Y- ]Thanks! lovely small girl!
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鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 23:31 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 3 l: k3 Z! O1 l: g9 C9 m" V
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...
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我不年轻了.不过我每年花在看病吃药上,不到100加币.其实也很多年没看病了,连体检都不去.* w& v( ?, i/ l( d1 o8 ~
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洗牙是回国再洗,我受不了这边的,洗一次牙,都要让你走两趟.
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1 w) I$ d+ `  }" `/ X+ C象你的身体情况,真不应该老换工作,每换一次工作,就得迎接新的挑战和压力.应该找一份比较轻松的工作.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 13:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
current benefits come from of 换工作, if there are no 挑战和压力, the company never hire me.
$ ~6 |  ~5 U: ~+ CI cann't show my experiences. Next step, they will train me to learn new software( 1 week), I will lose
* e/ D. H) z+ ~. o% m6 j$ C" Gthe good chance. Don't worried about 老年痴呆症. Life is in moving6 h. N- l# M0 n3 j! {
Tomorrow, I still work( overtime) 10 hours(7am-5pm), I will edit some programs and setting.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 量子风水 于 2013-3-16 14:57 编辑
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合同工与非合同工,是看自己的成熟程度。如果成熟程度高,又不等钱用,合同工是优于长工的。我公司的创办人之一,已经到退休年龄,他就是做contractor。他可能是三五个月都在世界各地旅游了,偶尔才回公司一次。他是远程办公,用网络通过安全卡来做测试。$ e5 e6 F0 B4 r
我在卡城的同事,也是喜欢做contractor,他是‘从来没有在家闲上二个月的’,工资都不低于10万一年。  y" E4 d& Q# _
这与他的职业性质有关,他是做C#之类高级程序研发,这种职业面宽。而我就学不了他,我的专业面窄,是不宜做contractor,只能先后senior engineer/lead努力,以后再图其他。
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:50 | 显示全部楼层
同时与marie一样,在专业领域有相似成功,也曾经长期单身的女性,但即有不同的处世方式,并且应用得成功,而且福泽下一代,这种类型的女性,还是值得佩服与学习。1 v+ ]. h. J* V: ]
印象深的一次,是她家邻居有个冷气机,夏天时噪音很大。她不是去投诉人家,而是用想用一种和平的途径来解决纷争--显然,邻居并非有意,这是可以用和平方式解决的前提。这样做当然成功,邻居将冷气机的防护罩去掉,噪音就很小,而夏天热天也没有几天,所以不伤和气。  A3 E* y& c: x# e
世界不是你一个人的,即使是毛公这样的政治家,有杀子之仇恨的美国,都要建交,所以适当使用妥协,也是一种很好的途径。
! X& m* {2 X- A' g& ~# A当生活中没有那么多纷争时,人生病的机会就少。
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:56 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 JoyceAccSG 于 2013-3-16 22:02 编辑
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八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 : J, e$ ?9 W! [% l
你还是没有理解我的话.: t' o: d) e. c7 q% V- j2 ~
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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These are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,
& t* t# x8 r# _6 rbecause of I never become a contractor, let me know about contractor knowledge please" n: a* g% W- \

' e& i, A' @* r# nDental Benefits Summary:2 v0 ~; p, ]! R; {# j
Benefit Type         Payable At
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Routine               
( w- v$ n0 M4 z$ Y4 A6 f3 c        Basic                 100%
# z, \' L0 g/ U- e) H! ^# E, _5 N        Endodontics                 100%
" O' q% y# F8 H" }( i/ A        Periodontics                 100%
4 [7 d- A8 R2 y4 b+ @        Preventative                 100%( Z! @' _/ {2 \  @: W% z' s2 K7 ^: ~4 p
       
- ~, U8 a3 B8 I/ D2 S        Global Medical Assistance         Covered# S' R7 Z3 E2 I) p3 h

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鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-16 15:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-16 15:56 & u4 n: w7 v  a, K: T- z0 X
These are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,9 [$ v. s" T% p( D5 |" ^
because  ...

( J) P& l2 A5 f) y4 u( G谢谢你啊.
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还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.2 _% T& W' ?9 J& ]2 D' D( w: }
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好好享受这些福利啊.如果觉得合适和足够的话,就别再换了,公司给这么好这么多的福利,也是为了能留住人才啊.# d0 U1 `: k: d- L( K, U: q
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至于Contractor的细节,我也不想多说,其实也没什么好说,你列出来得所有福利,一项都没有,就简简单单的,每小时是多少钱就多少钱.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:10 | 显示全部楼层
中国人口是13亿,而加拿大是3千万,这种差异,使得在加拿大,有几十人的公司,就是中型公司了;有几个工程师的团队,就可以服务一个中型公司。这是在优势上,不能用中国的标准来衡量加拿大的标准。' o( _3 |3 \6 T8 m$ h

6 g. F# n! X: |所以,在这里,如果一家中有两个或以上的同一类别的developers, 就有可以形成一定的气候,可以外接一些简单的程序开发项目;如果再联系另一家,就可以做更大一些的项目。而contractor是向这个方向努力的最简便起步途径,这种contractor就是一种'自雇‘性质的管理。; @9 U" d, A; C# ?0 k
成功是经验、管理与技能的三重积累。人家有这种条件,不但有两个或以上的程序员,而且朋友圈中也有许多程序员,从而可能产生能量聚合,这就当然向这个方向努力。
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:53 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-16 16:20 . r/ t) K4 l% \' A! c
谢谢你啊.
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还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.
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I will, thanks!
  _! N  A( J! P% }. Q4 V7 BI was a small engineer in china, same as me in china, too many ,too many! I never did team leader, never
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