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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.6 y/ h/ p3 l- J5 [: P- ^9 l
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! q& n/ s1 k# K% a

, g# _! p7 ?( s"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.' {3 a1 P: ]1 d6 ~, T: Z
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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( [2 I& _" P2 h. a6 ^"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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8 w6 Y1 T! w; p2 t5 ?: nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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* \( H9 j9 \- k: k) Z[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。1 Q9 l4 L# h+ t& g, u% v6 b( q: A
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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7 x$ P# O3 q+ ^; f  ~  Y7 I9 S[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 - k* t# H. A, W6 e# e. t8 {  Z
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 `8 K4 i8 Z9 w7 }4 K0 i很多人都回学校深造去了
0 [5 I8 @1 X9 c' n- J7 f4 Q$ L嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
* Q0 W+ A: {8 ?- }  H+ H9 M% r' XWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its0 k8 L8 f9 E, P; N# j+ ?/ g
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton1 w3 \: y% U) |5 b+ i( I: @2 L
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
! M( L$ b8 i+ ?4 x/ G- ^5 W2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
% P" M; v) K6 T& ], n$ S% Gformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
4 G+ z! L% Q6 V, f  r* cfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,& {% w* c* B# {. z" x/ V. w; E
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
2 B- c' d$ a! g# g9 W% Smay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
4 ^6 K$ ?& Z9 G( L/ D; `pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
# q9 g+ o3 D" L! P, T, I* Eprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined/ R' u; J# [7 k. v: [! G
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,) b* |% L8 l7 N: ~# \: C
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is2 u, H) Q: `6 }! d8 w
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of( p9 H6 j1 M8 x4 L
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
" q$ o3 g/ [1 L0 y& isales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
% W: s1 u$ u9 H  s" c2 _% O& [5 Zbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
! h2 j4 Q9 V; v5 \0 ntwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in7 g+ g/ p' a2 B
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
4 X! t, t% a8 R5 A. ]: j: junsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 y/ j0 f$ G3 \2 I" b9 N$ H
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the6 X/ v# n2 B, i8 W5 f# D
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
) q& i' H4 Y8 F+ K- {% imajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
. U3 K: B- c& Y7 O+ f$ tThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s6 z( U7 ^" N# W
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
7 i9 Z! }7 O$ ]" ?Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
4 X/ I) c& r5 C, j3 m* Bhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even% S+ P5 E$ @( [% D5 d4 W: X% m
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average% u9 H; v4 [0 @
resale price in February is evidence that past prices2 E: o6 V/ @! z; |* r2 {/ l4 r
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove1 q: u5 M6 w1 z9 g' [; C" p; v
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’9 K- ~  B4 H6 H
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 3 H0 d0 y6 Q* N8 u3 d0 _: i' X% C
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子! A& y( Y' F, m  U+ W$ w

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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