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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞- u+ W3 }" b4 }

% a: M" Y  E' w1 @" e6 W* {7 O/ UBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane  {$ P3 X! l( t2 e" V7 e0 w- J6 p
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
7 |- z$ \' b' i! m% C(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
& L0 a, T$ j) c+ x/ r葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
; B8 H9 B9 w$ o3 G$ N上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
' n6 p: S( k7 m# L2 f她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
2 G: P/ M5 C7 \3 l# D5 YShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
3 h# @2 o$ L2 ^' P! k" @) F9 w9 ]) ^but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,/ K* z- X4 i1 d* M
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
) S) U2 `* M: u3 q3 zAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
2 q  [* [- Q: ]3 A/ |4 l5 Z) y: M0 {How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection* _7 M* s3 K3 F; {% o
if we demand He leave us alone?"
1 o. R) [0 c4 L/ a5 b5 H6 S『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;) S0 d% u8 H& b2 v6 X' a# x2 w
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,! w' E  Y& x. ~. X, y
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。1 j. V4 ?0 I$ \( s1 Q6 N, j5 D
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。5 P2 h+ f9 f( ]* I9 x
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,3 c" }% ^) b1 f4 a. E+ f
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』8 i9 m/ U( C- j" _, u% J

0 `, k0 I4 @7 e; B$ i, [4 WIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.9 |0 O0 B4 J/ J1 N
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
4 y( F0 P; w0 I0 x( Y  mher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
9 }! B7 {2 |) N( E" [schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
% R. `# e' a, `0 |8 D. `school...
* [: c5 _/ Q2 O+ c0 u; Nthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
; R* O; f1 i# R6 nand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
  D  [5 p; a9 m9 J- g看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
: u, M7 c! f# l4 x- W0 a我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
0 ^% k0 @+ z- ?4 D* A6 s7 p# H(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
' u- g! ?" ?, Y7 B最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
1 L$ @4 A) X! m1 f0 u- b( E要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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% {! ^0 f; h% h  `$ K9 O! @" bThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
' K0 ?: J$ T% j. j2 @7 Wwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped7 z' ^! Q1 u- s* A, x5 s! H
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed: w% G8 H4 q) {7 ^( l) m$ q; |6 j; K
suicide)
% {4 E+ h( k2 _# FWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
, ~7 n) D, U7 n: J然後Benjamin Spock博士說,4 `: D( _: m- r) O
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,  s/ x, ^  _5 m, y& _# p
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
% T$ G% ]$ ^3 C! i: U8 F8 C( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。& N- V! }/ ], b# O5 x+ ^' A" l

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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our3 v# F! S9 h; d- J% G- \
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member  g' m* ^* V7 {# q- h  r- g
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
# i# x! s' Z5 Z( _. l" |$ ]because we don 't want any bad publicity,6 X/ Y# C! c4 {. ?
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference* c4 B  T4 ^( m
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
) ~$ @; n  ?8 n7 jetc.). And we said OK.
+ e+ l; U4 @# @7 t. U然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,8 S% E0 y; a7 `4 W
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
' L, t# h  r/ e/ B; c教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,+ |5 U7 F2 d9 y8 F
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
6 C4 L' v! l8 v( w8 m& e而大家同意了。
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6 q- s; G. _. E; v9 P% d! T: nThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,( e/ S! T4 c- W
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.5 E0 C1 ]4 _- }" _
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
+ g& s; d) q8 h3 `$ ]* _and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms3 d1 c8 N7 j' h
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
4 c5 F3 s; i: F. D- P; N6 oand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
4 j) I$ l. G6 [! O& g2 Esaid OK.
! @& n. |6 v7 _0 v8 c+ n$ R然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
1 {: ^7 ]4 w! ^$ O# ?: V甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
& r% F: I" K+ T1 }8 {* L1 m然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,2 |) y3 z6 p1 X, [, x
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,; @5 N( ~. Q& S) S$ S( g9 X7 I  ?5 C
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
# {( i0 ~5 K, F& m他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。' n% P7 ]; ~, ^

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% i0 I) W3 N$ w- m8 T# U/ ]Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter2 \: U( C4 D  W
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,( ^# t' s& p: S# _0 R! y1 |/ @
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,) p/ t. u4 c4 [& T4 g
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
6 g7 N  [- o" ~  l然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,+ {& e& E8 y& v9 M5 i; Q0 e- S5 ?
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,8 Y9 a, n6 M; R
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
! G! e/ M/ z5 X+ R1 p% \只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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# o- G2 }+ z) J+ B; u% _6 p2 _Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women! d+ d, l! m' s9 p5 I4 |& k- i* m
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
  B! O/ k" y" |0 U( vof the female body. And we said OK.
! \. E4 V. d8 ]0 C8 }% i然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
; s1 x: k: D8 ~# {稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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/ Q! Y' y* c' U  V4 _& D) ~And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
3 c! b* |2 l7 l; j$ ^: k1 Y' Dpublished pictures of nude children and then further again, K7 z3 F5 v4 e; X8 R
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,$ ?% ?. d6 k. p3 Z4 J
they're entitled to free speech.
8 l4 @7 x, d5 \4 s, Q7 |, F0 m然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,8 t" j6 `. _0 V
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,3 W7 J' H, G. x. n# T
他們這樣做是言論自由。) ]+ v+ v1 Y$ b$ j: f0 [
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
7 v# o! y4 a. R8 R# t. x* hthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music( L1 y5 s3 |$ G; U( B5 x8 [
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
, Q5 V; J5 y- C+ g& pAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
, H* r) U/ D7 W! V8 xnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.. _' i) V/ _; q! N
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
8 Q- w- a' E& R" z' [" h3 ^2 b不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、$ e8 b4 ^  d% E; j! w
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
5 j6 Q' Z. t' m% v- m* F* B那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。2 G2 U. L- W+ I0 K3 ?7 _5 b+ j
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0 [( e% @8 I2 kNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
  B: Y% g# {, L0 @2 jwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them$ m* c. Z" _4 o0 m. w" {% k* c
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
) t8 R; q5 s0 q- h1 w; ~9 L7 x) |if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.( W4 V  `/ z( f
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."- O, x8 q4 D& @
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
9 O$ e7 ^, q* ~1 l* j; z3 }" l為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?1 c2 ^+ L- q. s8 @! ~
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?: n9 q- p3 g  n+ `* w/ _/ S. n) F
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。0 b: k6 e* r; V. w- @; T
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。1 q7 h: L% w, V) n0 l

8 I: A' `  N0 V5 |1 |8 l6 AFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
3 W4 I1 `* A3 B! Rwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers9 [- S) y5 w) ?" T
say, but question what the Bible says.
; v! @% V9 b- m. n- x- n6 h$ y  z! W實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。* k7 C7 y3 C5 ~
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。) U4 N6 R+ k, s0 `' f
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like; o  |; {. S) L5 i  z
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
3 z4 o- {. W, N$ g4 opeople think twice about sharing.) e6 j# |' l7 v9 ~; s2 l3 O
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
# U) b' K$ `1 K" y' t但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,$ T' [4 H. S/ N6 F. S# Q8 F4 O
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
. k% n  Z* Q- k9 i5 ^- Uthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed) o9 ~2 Z7 |& D* {
in the school and workplace.
& t! B5 Y' Z+ l  Z9 \- Y實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
7 J& n$ D4 a: Q# w  M2 _8 l透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;( w' ~) V' ]' c* Z6 R! Q- w, A
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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" t6 b1 `1 b( K: g- P; hAre you laughing?
/ R9 Z- l. s1 D3 p你笑了嗎?
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9 K5 f, e0 K2 y( W: {& z+ V' W5 zFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it  M5 g+ q' Q: {! F3 E" r2 Y2 w
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
9 k7 Q2 L; {  _& `" Q- wor what they WILL think of you for sending it.+ G2 [5 }. O. n; N& \5 E' f% z
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us4 p  \; h0 b4 y2 s
than what God thinks of us.5 G8 F# o! J3 d2 x* C2 y- K  O2 z) y
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
# w  a# `. O  z0 c因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
% @. {' X9 S4 S3 g1 c5 ?6 Z, T0 o或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
8 s$ _. B3 p7 D3 U" X2 Q可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
8 G) d5 e/ y% M而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。6 V* K/ d" y  D; H8 i; R

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
" `( K3 {% _+ ~& x( r7 ~2 i9 `8 }no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't2 |2 _4 n/ `% v. k% k7 t+ u
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
' N. \2 Y1 }; c4 @- I5 @' P4 h把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話4 N* Y/ r9 `5 A( Y! u$ M2 ^
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
* ]0 r( j# c6 g  v# m但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,; x, u2 e& D! F: W. W
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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  y+ Q. I) h7 |# C, \上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
大型搬家
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
3 R+ O# y" d# s  \: h  May God bless you!
大型搬家
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
' ~6 a' N3 L7 z5 ?4 G$ Q  x3 C有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。+ I1 E2 |4 t' [1 ]' e) C9 a
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。. }  k: |1 Y) L' U+ \* b$ v& ], H1 w
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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