I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache) P# ?' \- H& R' b. g
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Calm down everyone please. . |" N1 k+ R$ q" j5 j( Z0 `% L 4 H6 P6 |& D9 q不存在 can mean two different things: % w/ ~9 }- M) N, q$ v' L ' G, e* {, }5 T- ?/ s$ C1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. 7 w, D9 W/ [0 P+ v8 s1 U& L2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 , n8 a' h# F; k8 H$ s: H; c* e( Y
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist0 P+ q( [7 B3 v1 d) X, G
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表 * i! B; t$ z w8 e. l MI would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache 9 k+ r& C4 ~ ?7 r! `+ M) }1 {- [2 m
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. ; a! z( ^' v3 O. I0 d! x2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头) C. T& M8 J3 @: W3 P8 _
) S* @' I n2 {6 R$ TI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
1 F. K: q6 u" {/ q/ p. C; HDid your GOD ask you to curse people this way?/ j, b6 t, m8 p0 L9 [
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
9 |( b1 w* O5 X2 ~& D: v$ f. N2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!2 d) j$ j" N" M! w$ y5 R
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) - r' L* ~2 e9 i7 U) R9 I; h! Z8 t% }, O0 q
Maybe we should stop argument. 9 m C; N0 ~' a" F5 y6 k: x
; ?3 O9 H9 k! DMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion/ Q7 a6 f8 ^7 p" H- G