I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache* D5 W" ~7 z$ w! x% }
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Calm down everyone please.( O# _$ W; ]) @+ o
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不存在 can mean two different things: 4 `: f/ O/ z/ R Y2 i8 ~ 0 Z6 F" i( p9 K# d1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.- a$ q8 C' H3 V6 {! ]3 d: x- L
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头* j% w! d" }3 Y. G
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist _% n8 X6 P* ?$ E/ E. X
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表: L1 O+ }1 N! `0 T
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache ) t6 d6 K; d/ t5 `2 c3 u( W0 ~4 j- w7 [
Calm down everyone please., t4 J5 h" g' ?, l+ w0 X
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不存在 can mean two different things: # W+ s* x, y- V/ g# x9 @6 p 2 n8 u$ N5 E$ ~7 Z1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.. Q) I' M; _* N$ q9 c3 @
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 % W& J7 v, U" M$ [8 r( ]' d1 z+ e" L) C# h8 p6 J8 t
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
9 o4 W. O, c3 D! [1 F' Y ) l. U1 e: Y: ~: H) W" U3 ]( G0 y+ g小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
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9 J" J C. T) ^6 N1 _ Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way? - n1 I% a& g: q7 I9 `If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
宗教信仰是一种自由,信也好,不信也罢,别恶意攻击别人,这是最基本的道德标准! % m Q5 p- X6 x2 E' G& \ T% v" ^, J7 W6 F
另一方面,我挺佩服在这儿跟贴吵架的网民,最起码在我眼里,这些人都挺有激情的,这年头,难得还有这种激进人士啊.服了!# f3 W, Y _; z( U( b
# K( }1 D5 E5 r& ?. ]. n2 m ) W5 m; Z; l% u2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!! K% g/ u2 d2 s& D0 `3 C+ r
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years)7 w% k$ E$ `% n& M0 T4 ?
/ `& i+ d. Z" a- K9 eMaybe we should stop argument. / ?1 E6 s/ Q3 Z5 h7 e/ P, ^+ }; p7 U2 ]) [0 j& {$ \
My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion! j# u) y! b, S* b1 V# C
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[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]