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肉麻怎么说啊?

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发表于 2008-1-11 07:35 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表   w( V8 G+ K' G* W/ ]2 g
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% `* V/ U6 Z# U7 O1 r3 e9 q& C当然,但是我觉得从矫揉造作这个中文去找英文,pose还是很妥当的。' q, Z" E/ j/ g  v  X; {$ b+ D) n& H2 e
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其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思,和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的,只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见?
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:! ], f& q! U: \( E; k! ^9 z3 s
what about clichéd or hackneyed, are they closer? They both mean something by "overuse" but the end results still seem to difer from when I use 肉麻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-11 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
先感谢一下同学们,我稍后再来仔细学习
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:40 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
6 Q3 `5 s; J) U3 D1 j$ h1 Q3 hThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :% }  F1 f/ S/ x6 B+ r/ s
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  ! ]5 g2 T9 i7 A! v- a
2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

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* E+ m# [) W' ?+ `7 Z, Ihave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones.
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
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cliché really means overused, predictable, 陈词滥调, 了无新意.  for example, in chinese shows, to imply that a woman is pregnant , she will always suddenly rush into the washroom and start to vomit, that's a cliche scene. so cliche!! R9 E+ }$ h; M. ^9 m( |; X
but not rouma at all.
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发表于 2008-1-11 18:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 ! M" D+ l. q. P0 |% ?
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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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Thanks. I will check it later on.
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发表于 2008-1-11 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表
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% I0 A- ^4 n, [have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:25 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表
8 N# c6 b, i% e% U' |: u) Limpudence  厚颜无耻   可以吗?
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1 [2 R) Q$ A  W" i' b9 `+ d虽然和肉麻关系不大,很喜欢这个词!厚颜无耻!这么对应一下:
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bold faced 不要脸的!# B) [! R3 x5 Y* \; Z

2 f# A( y  ]; l! K) M/ i1 h+ f寻求“臭不要脸”的英文ing..
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:27 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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1 \% E$ g$ M% n6 ~3 l. II really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:' b  h7 Z& A3 d& X
what about clichéd ...
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对,我的总结是:cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广,但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy7 \' A/ ^' E# @2 B& N- o' G
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这个cliched,我就遵循下面竹帘这个french frog的说法了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表 2 _8 y1 J% i; ^( G8 C1 G8 S
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...

! ?+ M; o+ ^& O$ t7 ^2 W文化不同语言的应用不同,这个原理是对的,比如哥儿们,美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎,因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表 ! o* T0 S, y1 g4 G
The following is what I found about definition of cheesy :* H5 s7 X8 i; G5 {, V7 Q
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  
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请参见20搂,我开始也是查的正统字典,觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy
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发表于 2008-1-13 23:48 | 显示全部楼层
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:08 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表 ( i- L1 W. W; j+ o
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:12 | 显示全部楼层
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另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy
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形容肉麻的情书情话之类.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表 0 |. e! w" W+ D* `/ c7 y9 o! E) X% s" i
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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严重感谢!我查了一下,icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近!我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用,以求加强记忆!再次感谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:29 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
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schmaltzy !太高级了这词,没见过地说!仔细钻研ing
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发表于 2008-1-15 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表 + ~& X: o( X/ t% K0 v9 k

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Mushy
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这个对,我女儿说的。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表   B1 `5 ]* R- B: \8 r3 Y/ [- r9 p

( E' i7 @: @+ `  Q3 c这个对,我女儿说的。
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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发表于 2008-1-15 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
mushy
) }7 }* o& p+ C8 i( F$ qoverly romantic and sentimental
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号,好像是那个人的名字?给人感觉很FAKE,叫CHEESY.+ Y5 R5 p, ?: K9 E, v
她说,肉麻是和LOVE有关的,MUSHY.
2 r+ S& m0 x$ W+ X, h8 ]如果你还不明白的话,我让她来回这个帖子。
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!1 n5 o. v8 T5 X; h& \/ k
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表
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3 ~' I3 \: W9 p3 R* X. o她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号 ...
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严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊!可惜俺的太小了!
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% ~8 n5 d% q0 A. k5 k我从这个帖子学习后,又有这么个想法:肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的,如果是爱人间的肉麻,是mushy, 如果是表演过度,作假的肉麻,是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗?
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外甥女说的是Terry Fox, 是所谓的加拿大民族英雄。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 17:29 | 显示全部楼层
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Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!; r' C' k8 U; R6 y: Y5 `
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...
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thank you so much! I wonder how cheesy was evoluted into rouma
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发表于 2008-1-16 16:48 | 显示全部楼层

I thank my government

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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表 ; N0 Y; w1 F3 K) y: A
用google字典翻译
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没谱的不行不行的
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I agree with this one.
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- F5 d8 Z) t" e0 d- J; s8 B, ]- UOne joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表 0 H1 y- y8 G+ S0 n% v3 {
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没谱的不行不行的
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某大官考查回归前的香港, 被问及如何看待治安和黑社会时, 说了一句经典的话: 黑社会也有爱国的! 从此被广泛引申为: 鸡也有爱国的....等等等等.2 p( A6 i. V- a/ D# c# _. I
港传媒便有曰: 今后谁敢在公开场合说自己爱国的, 都应该被捉起来, 真正罪名是"肉麻"
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原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表   U, ]9 `$ \) Y9 }
wow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-17 09:19 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表
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2 X/ N4 ^" |3 v3 COne joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....
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发表于 2011-4-27 03:21 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。
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