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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞: L& F: B/ A* |

+ K. f- |9 ?/ ]* `8 ?0 JBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
5 a7 K/ @' U0 L8 z! n4 p! tClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"8 j' j/ G7 o5 r% W- b9 f
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).7 Z. O6 l# S. d  s) I
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
' W8 n: F" G& C+ @5 t! @上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?  \- a0 Z1 s1 u/ ], s0 k
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:  f8 [8 o2 e8 N' V& c

$ N- b* s2 J4 F" t7 C4 Z  G+ zAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
9 j4 t* X( ^7 H* W- H% SShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
6 L/ l4 O% p. i" ^; Wbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,( j+ ^8 G, U9 d: j
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
/ }& ~! A4 R' lAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
1 V! Z3 B& E+ U# L0 z* t3 LHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection+ ]! `8 G  P, Z- x( v- u: d
if we demand He leave us alone?"
# O6 i6 E8 H2 K. `% n『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;2 B3 y* c: m& R" c7 D. J
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
8 B7 S/ z- a( B+ K; l5 O3 W不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。; ~" N. B2 E% Q+ f0 D6 j6 t1 x7 J& d0 O
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。; E" b( c5 }! z+ \8 n+ e3 Y
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
  x2 C0 S; q; u4 R3 N) U; R: {" R又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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! [: o0 K8 ~6 j. W7 a5 FIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.2 i( r9 i0 W" `4 o( n* g, q# ]
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,9 k. s, o0 s: ]$ S
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
6 u8 ?# a7 X. e9 J# R1 p0 Zschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in: r" q% @/ B4 p
school...
% j9 T8 q, U% O& tthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
! q; `& o8 o6 k4 sand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
& n0 Q+ M4 c' Y0 N看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
) ^; D6 e* |( X我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
8 N6 B3 M5 p0 B(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
2 o( W7 t( n& }最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、6 H7 v: Y7 m+ O8 e2 p$ d4 E! K$ X7 D
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
9 g# a5 M9 \* mwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
5 B6 _. Y  k2 t0 N) X( Rand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed8 }2 x2 G) z: Q, j% Z' d
suicide)$ V% ~% Z" w; r! n
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
1 k- A, F8 l- l3 u然後Benjamin Spock博士說,; @) w2 x8 O& H+ j9 p" W0 Z
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
- B, Q9 }6 K3 L# ~8 J7 T4 @  j以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊: ?/ c( W! @2 n3 C% ]4 r
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
/ B& K3 N1 {7 Q4 t, echildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member/ v& h8 _  m  P6 s4 c' [& ]
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave: y0 a5 K% D6 L! Y
because we don 't want any bad publicity,- M$ J: h( D8 O: k0 K/ ?, W: m1 V
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference6 o' ?" s" J8 D# P
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,; P3 X2 |% |# U
etc.). And we said OK.+ n' t/ c$ B. r* l" U0 l
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
  ~# o, H- `$ {. F老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
7 ~. ~& D4 C" c3 k2 P; E/ f8 y教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,; L# e! Z% d- y& S+ W
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
6 ], O+ z/ |- p1 q而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,$ |/ i; A3 y; w. O5 H- c* a5 k
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.8 U: Y6 Z5 z9 t
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
0 W* r8 S6 ~  U% d5 k. Rand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
- [9 W0 I0 v; }they want so they can have all the fun they desire,' o, V- @5 Z" m1 R& F8 L
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we( Q2 b5 E1 l. @8 `0 s
said OK.5 B0 N! C3 f5 b
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
2 e1 z: T+ A: X8 E4 {甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。& p! G1 O2 ]: e8 {6 P
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
* h  y3 A! ?& }  Z他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,* K) T. h8 [2 H9 K. \
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
- x0 q, A( N0 A9 W% @4 |. |他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。7 H$ J, X' ~5 a( L* @

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9 G" Q& ~% Y, A" XThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter! e' E; `! o. [
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
! p& r( e8 I8 r  h- ]1 y) ~) Rwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
2 p# f  X. D1 K/ s; x6 G3 s6 udoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
  L! L/ R% w5 _4 c5 A然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,9 A* T2 m! N5 |8 U' j. d# q6 T/ c
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,0 x# |6 M: g, T
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >, c$ ]; C8 Y* |4 p6 {5 G
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。! @. n3 v- I2 c+ P  L7 }  @, I

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/ C9 \8 O* d5 u& P! h3 y/ PThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women1 P& F9 {: W5 ~) T7 f3 a
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty/ u8 ?$ ?7 g' `' q7 u' C5 u9 g
of the female body. And we said OK.
$ a0 i; y6 s3 E然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
' J: R: F) p* v; d8 s2 x9 N; Z稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
5 V+ R) z# H& e- A0 l3 g2 o7 d% t* Tpublished pictures of nude children and then further again
, J/ ~. N* r! B. p8 X3 b& ]by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,6 X  C3 o. J  o" X* x9 F# R
they're entitled to free speech.2 C" x, b  V4 p2 ~+ i
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,( s9 j: L8 b. }# a# l
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
  |6 t' @/ @9 G1 d他們這樣做是言論自由。
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2 n% r' s7 v- v' ]  y9 l9 F) [/ tThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies* s& @% q  u( e. U
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music( u& I5 W5 t2 P& {
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.9 a6 _' {2 x, h# L6 t; H% }5 ]
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
* ^7 i0 E1 M- v! c& @2 A7 K/ Bnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
* r7 d7 D1 T$ e% [# d: |' S; k然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
- p! L+ h- A" b. e& A2 W6 g不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、- J5 N3 w7 A6 \" L
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:) ^& w# ~; K7 \, y% i' d
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
5 w( q2 ^$ |& wwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them/ _- Q! F4 P$ M8 M8 W: [  x. m
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
( n' d1 _% o. Z- J2 h5 @1 lif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.( b' d7 Z! s! F/ B
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
8 [. H8 U  r9 @% k; M) V如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?8 l5 J1 {* u2 S) s/ p( S
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
, m( _5 ?- V. ^! Z* o為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?; n/ h" ~. n' b2 E
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。# `( ?/ C2 o0 E! s
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。) z; d7 [9 d  A2 J, h( f8 S

; ]7 o4 q( K% ]8 [) J) ~Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder! U) Y; m3 w2 Z0 g: A2 H
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers# g& b- {- }2 j, I3 \$ {
say, but question what the Bible says.) }- H3 y3 {/ x* G7 g
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
$ }; [, o% k8 ~實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。, b) f7 r# Y" n4 U6 V

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$ v1 A; k' a. y& HFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like  b! Z- H' \7 G" G7 j
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
) G8 @( j( a# Q; N; Y" _  h! {people think twice about sharing.
, `9 k( z5 K% B# {+ N4 l- b實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;' |( l8 }: V5 ~4 p
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
+ M  H9 Q, i5 k( r" C3 o2 U人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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8 A  k$ K  b5 p- D( jFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely6 z; Q2 X- e: \, }: f3 _/ [8 o
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed& w7 z2 n: K! B/ h# _. c
in the school and workplace.
/ _$ E) M& q4 G實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章! e4 V6 Z# p  @1 d9 z
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;' ^$ g+ t$ y6 K" F8 i7 |" ?5 D" y
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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9 Q' R9 d0 l' R1 W4 @' CAre you laughing?" E. l1 Y2 B$ ?+ v) ^4 G/ ~% {
你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
* C* C0 a+ v8 r8 o3 B- hto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
4 y* _7 I! Q' p8 w# Wor what they WILL think of you for sending it.9 _" c5 `4 M3 f$ h# J3 b
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
+ C2 q$ i: A/ u) K) ?than what God thinks of us.
% ^( k( G" g( W5 U0 d好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,7 k9 u; a0 [  k! y* J: n
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
5 D* b, l' X& w% T& K* c& @或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。& W+ W9 U' ]& v5 W
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
3 o0 e( A$ j! g+ E6 y, q6 [而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。0 E% c2 m: @: w! N' N+ ]0 a: j2 q' k2 P

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$ @0 l/ ~8 H6 U  l+ j- s1 z- [- fPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
' W; s  v7 ~/ `: t' r( Nno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't# k4 k$ w0 z7 G# h
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
9 Z% U( h) O& l) ?把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話, x' u" }4 q3 V$ R
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
* k0 c. D  s* {  E但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,8 K+ f) d" e; s# K
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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% |, V% ]3 I- q上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
: m* @( Z: C8 s  q! Z  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
% B- l3 m) Z( J7 m' I/ Q# }) h有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。; F: w, \( `* Z! \& O
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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6 |: P; g& g# X9 \& q所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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