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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞7 a4 t& r& K2 p1 s: P5 a& V: x

3 W! {: A8 W0 i9 ?+ ?9 K# aBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane" f0 A% A+ z6 b" E
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
  |" @3 X5 `9 R4 `8 m* A(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
) {' s8 K  x, I( J& w) D2 k葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
2 F8 i4 [7 e" j( }8 z) v上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?' Y$ W8 U( d/ ~) P& g$ J6 k% f
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:1 [8 x* W( G) y

; R- C( j; q+ \3 ]0 k) AAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response., [5 X2 i4 o6 s1 s' k' M
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are," @1 I1 [2 i- r# v& A' }4 m$ ?* I
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,( T' h9 J" n9 ^1 ~. m. V
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
! l% r, ^$ G5 p: K( T) ^: sAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.. \3 ~# {& N- F1 j% r
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
) b3 U1 n  \6 L' Hif we demand He leave us alone?"# G# ?* F8 t5 M
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
6 A  [' a. h. y- H) A" t1 b2 `只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,3 w. Y3 V& G$ b; ]' Q
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
2 C0 X7 V& i$ o上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。, S% @8 g0 B5 E
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,1 i! R3 A% G/ l. ?
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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. j" m& V  z0 W6 {: s; x1 d) @In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.8 t/ e4 c7 M1 m2 y- @
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
9 a1 q9 C( X" G8 l0 @+ Iher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
! u5 P) O0 m- M/ H* k9 `8 v+ q( U4 Cschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
  u& {2 a3 u( B5 t- k+ Jschool...
  h! W- E( O1 |* Ethe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,# l% [7 ^: f8 \! f, M2 Z' ~
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
: B+ V% |( u- n3 Y9 G看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
) y7 v) G% r+ f9 m" `) f+ n+ i我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
2 T( M* {9 l6 {1 O* ](她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,9 h1 N* @. ~  e
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、6 D# P/ ?, b; y- B$ n5 f
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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7 X/ P5 Q5 `$ O% T8 H0 i% EThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children. R8 |' @8 s3 V2 H3 z. Z& F
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped% C* U; r. ?1 i4 t
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
7 K7 Y$ _( o1 v, F3 u, |suicide)
+ o2 j' g7 i* bWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
  v3 m+ g# X, B" C然後Benjamin Spock博士說,3 }7 I1 W$ G8 e' O; @
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
) d4 {7 f0 q  m以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
+ D0 M0 d+ U& r6 s; s! X* D( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。" \2 V  ?3 u5 m/ y
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% [5 [4 s  O7 K* A8 f" E2 A6 RThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our5 i7 }+ a. A, U3 @' f
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member: S# C9 B$ _5 j/ D  x$ X) ]$ Y
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave3 L+ E& q4 [0 a. @; n' l6 R8 m
because we don 't want any bad publicity,# i& l7 Y# o5 S: w2 D( E
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference2 e& T& c5 ^$ \, U
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,  n* t* y2 h- q' p2 H
etc.). And we said OK.
  O& ^2 r! G" R8 q/ H% }然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
+ K- i: ]& J8 a* U9 q5 p$ @& w老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
# k9 Z$ U- F0 x7 b6 _* e* S教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
+ z" K; r! O  r! Q% {更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
6 a% Z' G: m5 `2 \1 z; a8 e, p$ @而大家同意了。9 ^8 M  a; _* O5 O6 T- S  C- L

; c7 v$ Y; Y, G  N' b* m: e: VThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,* z! i! p% \( o
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
$ S' e& \# R- V0 B3 UThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys' a: A/ Z7 P5 ?0 x: V8 @
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
) W" z8 W( t+ ^" z5 ?* X/ ethey want so they can have all the fun they desire,
" u$ s6 `) N  I" H- Xand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
  m% u+ ]3 z7 X) Esaid OK.
; S6 ~( s1 g6 C然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,  T) [- {# |6 ~, Y5 V. J
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
) G3 }, j3 t4 A$ N" G然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
% E# a5 O% l2 U" A  r他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,& y" |! S. M! k' Q( Y
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
6 ?4 y  r: w# i6 x' V他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。- K+ C7 z- k9 u3 y# `

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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
# M9 j3 X  y8 x$ qwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
# d2 I9 r5 j8 d, `5 ^- l* Lwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
0 O( h- j* i7 @  O3 @, Sdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.) }# O: i) p, Q. Q" `: r- f. p
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,( Q, J+ p+ a7 B- i* R& a
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
7 w3 D( G8 `. X& R4 v8 t任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >3 F0 M/ |3 X) z% x
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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" p% c) |% n& x: Q: z) yThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
8 T9 o6 `, r; I4 C, T: }* Oand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty& N. b5 h0 p' J9 I; B' P2 H
of the female body. And we said OK.
3 n9 T# R, M/ ^4 D然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
8 i. H+ z! x% C* Q7 f稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and( I2 ~& s) Y0 C1 `' W
published pictures of nude children and then further again4 `8 r) c, ^, `; A8 \0 @- H  `
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
  k4 `4 G6 ^' C8 g) m3 ?$ Dthey're entitled to free speech.
0 e" h( q, X: q( z6 t2 @% N2 e然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照," g! j- u: r0 n* f$ f8 X' k
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
: g  S  N" R$ o" s3 C他們這樣做是言論自由。
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4 k8 \# V; d# y) v0 f( ]% N5 m* IThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies, H" t0 s! v4 [
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music8 W, o  S' `/ _+ `- ?8 S
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.9 N5 y- ~& N( P, y' A# f( K
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
% A% K* O- ^, n4 ?; L7 Cnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
3 @) `1 r+ }3 d% J0 X6 E2 C# p然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、. I- ~; l; I- j+ |$ }) @
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、5 Y! D6 g% J, s1 b9 A7 W, B8 V
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
( ^" S" @9 p5 h" C那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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+ R- p, H( R* V* ^Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
2 W" ~; g: e8 vwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them3 D+ m2 g: p+ d0 `# }6 X) s2 s
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
6 q# Q) w5 D4 Z" A! y" Z4 jif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.  z2 r2 W* J% X, Q! S* M
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
4 s! m0 G6 d( w3 b7 C如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?) o' D* Q, A/ _4 m
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
4 m; O/ I: b8 @7 p/ H' i' I0 ~# D為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
! V) ]2 S6 S0 R假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。9 i3 L2 N/ H5 d3 i1 x
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。" }8 a( p7 V1 R7 t4 z! s+ y1 N) E1 y, {
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder: F& H0 ^# H4 ]- b# ^* q# S2 n5 o
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
; g' X/ R7 k7 Q: M( A5 qsay, but question what the Bible says.
' J  |8 R, B8 _0 ?實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
  a9 O) O& f1 N7 i1 H+ ~7 v實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。5 \, }9 v- t) ?) W5 H& N, t

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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like5 y) u9 Y  f$ u8 L
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,* S1 b; N0 _+ A- _0 X
people think twice about sharing.
* f/ o9 r4 \/ \$ ^8 v6 [: ~實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;& ^! @7 S$ T2 z. w
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,6 F  f  D6 v: y# V& S
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。; d6 ^3 Z) ]3 [. i7 g

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9 C+ x0 w3 Z) XFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely) z$ D* o* T; c6 t% b: c" _
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed6 ^2 B# G; P. q6 P; g
in the school and workplace.
" H# K: s8 @& z& u. c! n, L% y實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
* [9 m3 B' h  _% @- ?6 x: t透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
8 G' V# K" g! @( C* e2 L" d而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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: C3 o7 |5 l+ h/ O- bAre you laughing?+ D) O" n5 a% s  P) N0 t# W4 w
你笑了嗎?- a, Z; ]0 O9 [6 @: o
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it3 J4 W! O6 P3 @0 b' N- q3 K
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
" W. S& u0 ^3 G2 i% ?or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
+ F6 A$ r( C5 Y- C* vFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
9 |4 W- C0 @8 H6 u+ q* pthan what God thinks of us.' V. l2 M$ K  U, ?. Z9 B
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,& \  v0 x7 h% A* i5 `
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
0 ^9 a  B+ k3 j/ `9 p  u或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。2 A. @- t- u! d
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,, O, F1 o" J& |
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。/ u' m3 h! w6 ^4 \# m

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' ?5 G2 I* \8 C) P+ YPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
) s$ z0 R7 b1 H, {' nno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't1 o0 A  A. y% a  R5 ]
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!7 A& o# J: k1 v9 Q
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話" G* s, u8 O3 v2 {. L6 t, v5 p7 A" H
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,- X2 v2 N. I  H- m
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
  v: n& h: N. T9 N$ m8 n4 `你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发." s( z: C; P* V! g" l

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: T, K) C0 y  C9 K" f6 r上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。. t" N& r4 M7 Z+ q1 s- Q- N
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶) l9 Y4 F6 g% S. ^7 l
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。4 i2 s3 Y: J% D0 e( e
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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+ L8 K/ s/ k5 F3 o所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。6 C$ s7 }! l6 r- {  V3 X7 w! F

5 z/ G8 G6 Y5 c. ]  K+ ^  W% T社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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