I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache/ T! t7 v$ e k V' K# v- D
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Calm down everyone please. 3 G( }0 N) |1 y+ i) Y) l3 h8 {/ Y: E( v' \* m% [: A( `! x
不存在 can mean two different things:5 Z7 k5 N0 A2 R1 w7 N2 B# u
0 \) w' \2 h, s- V: b, ^1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. ! k4 F( k+ Z1 }5 P1 j' s2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 ' e) ^# F- a) t7 R' e. H. K5 \1 b; A$ E& E4 b5 @. f
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist 8 o* ?* u' F- v5 I9 D3 W. [" b Y5 P' I
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原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表1 o* o$ N, O4 c5 ?, T4 `4 L0 H& y6 y
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache & k; K, Z8 S+ @; L! d % {8 B+ v, s# C5 v J0 z$ A9 bCalm down everyone please.+ K! k9 O- B# O4 x
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不存在 can mean two different things: * H" E0 J6 u3 M5 {# V2 N% V; ^& Z! }' c; K/ D
1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.1 V' e E' h/ v3 |$ b% E
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 - r7 y% _7 W3 F* t7 W: I0 w8 E) g# u9 y! r; K" i _8 e5 @
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
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9 }' ~+ u5 i. X$ @5 l Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way?7 ?9 o1 s; l' }1 d: J
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
" h/ n8 f1 p0 X( I 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不 ...
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!. ]2 Y. O! T. K2 F
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.- G4 [" Y) P6 P( ?8 ~% s/ l
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[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:57 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表 2 t; y! k! l8 i- Y. J5 y3 j+ ~. c! o( `) m3 \2 L# X
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! ; M8 O8 q6 G' ?- t6 m1 s5 m/ y' p% Z3 P/ B8 T& L. H' z# l
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
原帖由 也无风雨也无晴 于 2006-6-8 10:30 发表. A. I- {4 e% {5 V/ L
宗教信仰是一种自由,信也好,不信也罢,别恶意攻击别人, ...
7 _% n/ ^+ }) k2 l- A( J/ Y9 ~ ) m" P+ o( r" F! n& c% q7 l! IArguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years)( \. S5 ?# H% `: c* s) U, S. k4 R* E
6 f' l' v: r2 p$ S, J; |Maybe we should stop argument. 3 }0 U7 L2 |% b# p5 l
- C* |) N% x5 t3 y5 u+ P; K2 uMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion ! ^4 T, n) a( B; u7 h& v) N: A" {. o
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