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Is there a house bubble in Edmonton?

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发表于 2007-1-13 10:30 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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How to figure a home's fundamental value
, ^) O+ [" Y- s' bLeamer says he can tell because homes, just like stocks, have a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) that he believes determines their fundamental value. The “earnings” part of the ratio consists of the annual rent the house could command. Homebuyers can compare current P/Es with historical levels, Leamer says, to get some idea of whether houses in their cities are becoming overvalued.
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! d- ]! T$ A, D7 T7 g. b/ WNot everyone buys the idea that P/Es dictate value. But investors who completely ignore P/Es do so at their peril, as many have learned in recent years. Leamer, who heads the prestigious Anderson Forecast at the University of California in Los Angeles, points out that the P/E for the Standard & Poor’s 500, a key stock benchmark, was nearly double its previous historical high when the stock market bubble burst in 2000. When home P/Es peaked in California, Boston, Dallas and other markets in the mid-1980s, devastating real estate recessions followed.# Z* S6 y# e6 ?; A: w

) N+ @9 }( D4 T% \$ ?# m' J# W0 RLeamer didn’t invent the concept of P/Es for homes. But his willingness to proclaim bubbles in several of the nation’s hottest markets has brought him lots of attention recently.% m( u/ ]1 B1 \* w# y2 [

. m9 Q" _/ g$ d4 X% {To calculate P/Es for entire cities, Leamer divided the median home price in each by the annual rent for a two-bedroom unit in each city -- and looked at P/Es each year since 1988. Here’s what he found:. ]$ k. i1 I1 R" N8 ]5 ]

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In Boston, the residential real estate market’s P/E recently topped 30 -- compared with just under 20 in 1988.! D6 U# \' d) a1 w4 ~/ H* M
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San Francisco’s previous peak of 25.6 in 1989 has been eclipsed, with the P/E currently at just over 27.4 w- S/ [8 y- m6 c# V, C
San Diego’s current P/E is nearly 30, compared with a 1989 high of 23.4.
) q6 T9 D- s2 MNew York, by contrast, is actually well below previous peaks. The area’s current 22.5 P/E is above its recent nadir of 17.6 in 1993, but down from 28.6 in 1988.( p4 p2 s% R4 d2 d
You don’t have to know exact P/Es, however, to spot signs of trouble, Leamer says. Any time there’s a disconnect between prices and the underlying value of homes, as measured by their market rents, there’s the potential for a bubble.
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If home prices are rising much faster than rents, as is true in Los Angeles, that’s a strong indication a bubble is forming.; k* P3 j, ~. N$ H* P1 B' ]8 K0 w
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If home prices are rising while average rents are falling -- which is the situation in San Francisco -- the bubble is pretty much unmistakable.$ T2 F& n4 u' w  F
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Home P/E ratios for 9 metro areas 2 J8 E5 p( W; Y) x. z1 @/ ?4 R6 T
Avg. 1988-2000 2001 0 x/ P1 G: ^% Z) n" `
Boston  20.5 30.2
$ P% K" w$ x: O0 |  Y- M0 B. MSan Diego  22.8 29.7 0 J" k7 T  E; B$ d& [" R
San Francisco  23.8 27.2 & s" A& {; u  P' G& R
Los Angeles  21.3 25.6 # I' L5 C- }/ T* F" J2 S% X
Seattle  20.4 25
3 _" _( u: s, m9 e) z0 i% `* XDenver  17.7 23.7
& Y1 Z9 b' \, [8 u6 TNew York  21.2 22.5 , b. ^6 q( I& U( U5 X: S: Q
Chicago  17.2 20.8
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% `0 M; P! x  bIt's difficult to compare P/Es from one city with those from another. P/Es in Atlantic City, N.J., have wavered between 17.3 and 11.6 since 1988; in San Diego, P/Es have not dropped below 20. But you can look on the P/E as a measure of risk -- that is, the higher the P/E is above its average level, the greater the risk, no matter where you live.
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" p6 t% d" s2 K: A8 k5 U; lFrom: http://moneycentral.msn.com/cont ... ingguide/P37631.asp
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发表于 2007-1-13 12:43 | 显示全部楼层
Who has the P/E for Edmonton for the last 20 years, please post it here.# p4 ^( s' O) U" \9 w5 F* g% x2 s- z

7 e4 P2 x+ V; k9 @- `! N5 Z; Bit would be a good reference.5 w9 B4 n4 i, o
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thanks
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发表于 2007-1-14 16:40 | 显示全部楼层
20% buble at least. And it can take 3-5 years to digest the bubble if not burst.- [+ h! g, `4 c7 Q

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