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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane4 n0 n3 I/ T6 u$ Y3 ]/ R% I
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
9 ]( [8 v4 T6 P5 j+ M(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).5 S3 h) @" i  o4 I' H2 s
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:5 k* g- O+ T# D5 b& `4 V6 G$ d
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?& W. ~" r, o' C( M& {0 n, s2 y  a" ^
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:( b' ~$ ?7 j% e$ {4 V; ?

4 K- N, z5 |6 DAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.4 `, J) B2 p; ~- U! m
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,4 G$ ~2 ]; P! \  [0 T7 l
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
+ H9 |5 ~5 k: c% a( v0 E  Qto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.' v- a* M; b( P9 I7 Z3 d
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.0 ]" n2 |& [- a' h$ e3 z% ?# p! e  a
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection3 y: V4 d  e. g: a" |" e- ~. r
if we demand He leave us alone?"
* [8 y5 O/ b1 n& x' g: ~+ u& `! X『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;, O/ k( H2 s9 c5 ^; _  B
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
! U3 r. b! y% L# d  j6 O不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。) g3 L. K/ N$ b
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。; b- P. h9 ~" F2 p2 T) o
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,/ m! i3 v6 [" }2 [4 z; k" @1 f3 i0 l
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』) `' S( K( U" R' j, e$ R5 y

  B" ~, I2 K1 D8 K' E7 r9 U3 \In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
) @/ A5 c' [8 I: a' I( H! sI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,) l" w/ S) `5 W: d" T/ ~! R0 l% H1 _
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our( v" ?, C0 L7 P# x
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in5 j9 R4 f9 i( q& n
school...* V. f" I6 K: T
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
0 w, {5 w3 Y' R/ s0 j- S2 iand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.7 t5 ^" R0 u2 V* D* ]% [& B( f1 P
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,' N3 y- `! P( B0 `7 e6 l
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
8 i; U( F( [2 m- d3 C/ u5 U(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,# C+ T) i2 E8 I) `+ O
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、( J: X- Q! m7 w1 @* W( S
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。& u! l1 Q, C- M) f+ f

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/ S; \- M: `! ~0 ?1 m1 f5 G* sThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children6 |6 k; F( l) ^/ b; i. r( R9 `, Y
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
# {4 G2 w3 w+ I1 P9 _: Y% G/ O2 g: J1 land we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed1 \4 J9 u3 |% Q) u
suicide)
6 G8 Z! c7 V! D/ Y; H  RWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
8 B/ D2 D" k& C. R! J5 B然後Benjamin Spock博士說,( Y& I0 X. _2 `% I2 o* R- T3 X
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,3 r% V+ \" c5 R! Q
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊: `6 o* P4 j$ B1 \  U9 W
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our: [5 _( b9 q1 W# g& T
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member" F) N5 V: E3 h) b0 U
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave7 i) i* I3 D9 }% G  w
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
. V0 W8 Q+ Q  J' H, land we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference5 z( u6 o# A1 G, {4 k9 I/ B8 g; e
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
% F0 h& W' D% _( fetc.). And we said OK.; ^2 S! l5 F1 c. [3 W! D+ j( y5 j" E
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
! I1 U* p. A- h老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
6 {* G; b6 ]0 x2 [. W; t教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,; T+ D/ q7 ~: a9 @
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),' G5 t; E0 o6 Z
而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
3 Z0 r  _+ X* W% Z# m: Q: f$ Land they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.+ ^0 B& o3 \: q( k0 L$ i' [# f
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys( s# o" V$ K- E; P8 b
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms$ S  F; @8 n# u/ b) \  s# M
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
& t$ u" n& C# E  o# Yand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
+ H5 C9 J0 y. J6 ^8 Xsaid OK.( U( I. V  _* G
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
: e7 B1 m" r0 ~1 {甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。; z% g6 y9 ?! D+ {; q
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,- J& ~) f  A4 }# L, E' }% ~
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,9 i/ Y7 j* I# P) Z& }
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道3 ]$ N+ _+ l3 N% g9 U# I9 P* K
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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0 G4 ?# H* N& m( bThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
$ U+ F. a9 I; C/ l; }; T1 Kwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,/ b- ]: C5 [7 ^5 N0 T
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,/ ?' z9 z1 h. B. U# }
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
- g/ P* t7 _# p1 [$ }; k然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
2 r+ p% p6 Z9 k/ S  A2 z+ e只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,2 H3 D+ h9 ^$ [! M
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >/ C. Z( e8 I& w; P
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。" ~9 M; h9 Q/ Z' A$ j/ C

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' Y, m0 M* b' M; C* GThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women8 D- _. s+ G& {" [+ T# `
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
. Y; U% z: }" ^2 bof the female body. And we said OK.4 A9 y1 U8 p1 \+ s! }
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
7 B+ @  U; \4 Q# q( ^稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
* z5 x+ C/ @) `( H/ s- k0 lpublished pictures of nude children and then further again9 Z# S$ W1 p6 E( ?/ m& I8 j. H1 x
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
  G+ r2 ]* E2 B8 K' h- z/ othey're entitled to free speech.4 q' w7 P  N8 \1 Q& z
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照," U" _, A  {; ?8 A2 ~
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
9 x: W& \1 N# p$ U2 b# J他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
' v# Q* @+ k! y' hthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music; i) Z/ T- v! l  K$ G7 B) m
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.% w- `; ~' c% w, j) c
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,5 j6 I8 d7 y' @. t$ z
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
# T0 B) r/ C4 m+ a  s然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
* C) `( |" e( Q: c" u不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、  Q. D9 v+ [' m; C( j: I4 A
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
6 w( y4 M/ \. a2 F$ |; T那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。+ j0 m, M. F, d. W
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& O0 D/ Q1 D5 Z1 eNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,; s7 j# ]+ s% {
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
/ p' n1 ~2 x( l# O, Tto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
5 x* J; B' m. B* f3 {if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
0 h# ~/ |. t5 E- ]; T' xI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."- g+ W6 M' p" J
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
; k6 s* n/ i1 B& @5 [) X為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
7 _+ u3 g8 B9 p3 l1 x! f為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?8 {6 g$ b$ F( }$ l
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。" B; }- f% S$ Y. c
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。2 f# D" `* Z% X: m5 J

! u1 d3 ^2 r" Q( B$ H: g. W# sFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
8 Z7 q7 u$ A3 t4 r- Vwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers6 M% H8 Y3 ]" S# r
say, but question what the Bible says.
0 j! \3 G1 i+ Q9 v1 Y實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。7 s  N9 ^$ e- [; p! A
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。* i- n9 j1 s# Y: F, Q! n
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) ?5 [( W: N0 z3 O. h' e% P0 rFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like+ x/ G& T2 A. f% v  M
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,- @1 E9 A4 k! k$ q+ D0 C" {4 ]
people think twice about sharing.
1 o6 g/ |- e) w3 b1 s: Y2 U實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;2 a8 L+ F4 H" L/ K+ E' l
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
' v7 G+ \) K, b  z) ]人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
  N& o9 Z# p. E) i/ A- Xthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed: D& b8 n, u8 K* C
in the school and workplace.$ h% l+ h- y3 k' K" {: u7 K( P5 k3 p
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
& `+ l9 f; A5 ^" z- s9 x( g透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;3 }6 e9 E5 k2 d5 t
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?
: p- y! c. ?  ?你笑了嗎?
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- F* F$ ~1 R4 r" YFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it: [5 d) k4 o% C/ R6 c& |
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,: H! {3 s4 J& `" m
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.. o# ]  B' }0 b- T
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
- s; y: A# x# e& ethan what God thinks of us.
) H/ h2 U/ A; h; x* Z4 E4 M7 ]" z3 ~好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,0 z3 y" [$ e. A7 x* B1 W
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
7 Q' Z( E; \1 ]8 ^' q或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。* D. q  p+ X' @
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,2 W/ Z2 _9 S. _$ A
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...+ q2 T* k/ w7 k! A" g+ j
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
9 G6 ~7 E4 a8 c9 q/ b7 qsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
' E1 \& E. U$ V' F6 }$ c: H0 |把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
) V" c- y0 D1 ^8 m# _9 P+ U若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
4 c6 |4 a5 n& B3 O) z. S2 q- y但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,5 r# o/ G' v& Q7 O9 B5 h$ w
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。, l. j- g, q3 z' \" J
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶4 ?; b& R( f. l# t2 |- F, p. R
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。$ m# k2 a0 K$ K/ {9 @
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了. Z( a* e9 k* v; ^, K+ s7 L  u

" e0 J$ K4 k6 o% ]0 h0 [1 w所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。) {* Q6 U* s1 r3 M

. g  m7 N" t7 J7 \5 f& y社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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