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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane% \' @& W# O$ K7 T/ {& P
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"0 D" u( h  ?& Q! q9 _; S  {
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).- u( A8 \$ d5 c2 M6 f
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:+ k" l0 b" [, R& C& K, g; H8 o% i
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?: u# s' c& P, G3 ~3 z
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:  ?  m8 U( U$ J# e  w9 N9 L

! ?& H' m" a' v# y- Y0 U3 CAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
7 T8 m7 ?8 j$ t9 ]/ k7 IShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
$ {+ V! Y4 f4 i# Bbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
2 w/ ]' T! j6 d1 U' ]& C% Dto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
1 q" I6 ^8 M9 m1 O1 yAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
1 _+ t! u( L; V6 k' V. w/ d: t& LHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection4 l9 T1 k2 X) ^3 x  t$ n+ l  S$ D
if we demand He leave us alone?"
% m. C* Z3 e" I0 L# k『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
$ ^. L  h& y- R7 w只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,& O3 t& N% s/ ]
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。2 Z+ {+ q: m9 {# q& s3 u: d: J
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
3 a1 Z1 r5 r3 o/ A; z" |( L我們既然強令祂遠離我們,8 P, S. }# [: o, F
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
/ c( h1 {3 M0 L% S/ C+ O# YI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,1 c* y; p6 E' m9 l2 K: d% Q
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our9 I. N" G, ~/ O  O! x, O
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
  u& z) y; [# E, w, X9 nschool...
5 W0 g0 C# B0 |7 x6 x, fthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
$ I& c# L+ W7 b1 rand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
5 W% ^# O% W9 i4 k4 P7 G看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,, H4 M! t7 K! O
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
6 ^  _! P9 ]* u. F(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,3 B0 ^. E* j* c' U( |! ^: A
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、: x% [* l' M. o/ }' k% ]+ I
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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* c4 C5 I1 t% o! T7 _6 [3 `/ h9 rThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children! T3 ]2 K: E+ @. {& B8 h
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped+ g+ G( h. B. m% u0 g( d. e, S
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
& w# ?& _2 L& L) ~% H. _+ x) i9 J& }suicide)
3 n- N. v7 ^( bWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
0 z+ a% e) t# G, J然後Benjamin Spock博士說,/ H; c# h; p6 @3 p
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
* Y% B8 X% [+ u* y! w+ n以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
5 r1 x6 N5 t9 [! B6 B2 k& M. }( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our4 `* Q: k  o3 L& }8 [2 }% C) c
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
9 C/ L! M0 j) K) din this school better touch a student when they misbehave
: c3 T: v, Z% F$ Y3 Xbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
. d2 t$ F/ U2 c- R$ C: aand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
: \) U' C, |9 j) Q1 dbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,9 ?2 i1 @, ~8 {6 S! f% V
etc.). And we said OK.
/ `( r" `$ s. X7 Q, D- q然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
+ W1 V  ?* S! n$ m老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
" E8 r! Z8 r# ?; ~( t! r% N6 M" t$ @教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
. s! h! {( F4 q* t% |: z更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
8 W3 h* e( K! h7 k+ }$ [" F而大家同意了。9 J8 n( o, D8 _7 }4 z3 C

$ W) v3 G; Q4 k& KThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
! [: b: L: i$ g. wand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.% w3 H& B! b2 G& T7 b9 d+ Z
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys9 t! T2 X5 _  w* l
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms: v) }" y8 x2 c  A& b1 ?! b2 H' _
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
. Z& Y% {. {+ o9 N  D8 Land we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we) Z' m3 o2 b- E( F2 O4 g
said OK.
$ v& H& d" o! N然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
% T! `; Y4 P: U/ P甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。1 S8 P+ r* p$ n0 G) l
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
8 x9 u; H! d4 z3 X! Q  s他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
7 B0 e5 V/ @; n# ~3 ~好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
2 o$ z0 z& W  E7 h他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。. i& R. }9 h% Y$ g/ l6 \

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5 p0 K1 E% {& D  `$ S" T7 b  \! kThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
% e' `) u8 i- A/ W/ }+ K' _0 ]what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,$ d2 S. C7 `5 g3 z7 f" h
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,% ?4 Y' G4 D5 O- b
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
0 b! ]& \# u. _6 X0 b然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,  u$ h: F& z2 h. v  e6 g* A
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
" {4 s6 J, V9 f' F- y# Z任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >; j4 h. x& I8 t& I1 q
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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* L  h" e. g1 O: H; BThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women* n3 M, c) ]. B( V1 n& B) ~: B2 L
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty+ j* I& o9 P2 {' ~2 ~, t
of the female body. And we said OK.
1 T$ T0 E: O6 y: z- Y然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌," ~7 u& R- m' g& e
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
# t2 \" U6 H6 l- [; u7 O$ d0 z% Tpublished pictures of nude children and then further again& y! r) n7 N1 L1 r! r4 q
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,6 U; v/ J& k8 F
they're entitled to free speech.4 c% Z$ V5 ^9 `7 l) P
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,9 s, }" Q/ r" m) N( i
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
( H5 t  N3 {" l. d  z( ~他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies5 t; M! S) a" Y* |
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
; g# _' @8 e0 B, t# xthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
! L% B  q; O. y) f) |; D. J5 yAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
) `. X+ b. Q) G1 P; N. knobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
. Y9 R  g1 `; m( ^9 I# D; _然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、) ?5 B+ T$ I% d+ X
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
$ W* Y8 B, ^! x% `7 b  {& k謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:; l" U6 I! P7 q3 ~% a+ ^% }
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。( \) b) l) i- {* p5 m0 e; k
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" `# b$ y, T. i- f% KNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
$ C; N  |  i. zwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them" c8 _4 U( m' X; g5 F9 g: U
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
: v, M4 j6 s9 |7 q- Y9 y- Nif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.' m9 E7 L1 ]5 g; |
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."5 z$ C5 T  o5 x; Y" V
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?' a: ?, @8 R$ _' W) h0 a
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
5 |2 M- I$ [, V9 I$ R5 _& F. k' F為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
; @2 P, D5 @* R9 H! X假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。  Q* w% `& Q$ l
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder$ f0 u% A+ X+ R! z* p) c, e% ~
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers( W* S1 c/ }% @2 Y# c
say, but question what the Bible says.
9 J/ ]) ?5 E4 @" D. l+ n% K實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。* @# ^, H1 K+ z9 _! g
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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' z4 @9 ]% ]* j$ m' i/ G* qFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like$ Z6 `1 y: N3 u3 v
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
4 i* W; I0 g3 g1 A! N3 [$ A7 _people think twice about sharing.
8 ]) a/ Q8 D* J3 y: z1 S4 o' a2 W實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
4 k( }% ^6 O: K6 [) {( w但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,3 `2 F+ l( Y! U+ C: c+ Q
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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0 K+ h: o" f% r- B' l( p. m! R; z5 i7 G) WFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely  F0 B9 G3 g! @6 h3 A- |# b
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
# E9 @4 }/ V: b5 J+ ]in the school and workplace.
& x7 [& h$ o: Y7 b) \實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章* W( B: a  {- x1 E
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
2 ?; Z! x( x9 @% o) @而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?  S! O, b- @$ E  K9 |5 q
你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it/ q# v' w0 w+ v/ C. v% D
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
& p, E7 H1 [! i6 por what they WILL think of you for sending it., a+ D* z; w9 d- y' c
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us- q! I% q/ ]1 g2 v9 k
than what God thinks of us.9 t& [4 K/ ?  ?
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友," V- e& t) B; }0 v+ ?
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,. _% p( Q2 b- q$ u" U" m
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
7 R7 v' R# C: n7 h; r( _/ [可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
  M* X$ N7 D# v6 n& s% p2 h而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。) S: R# f. h; D; x! i

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...9 q& V6 V+ G, \: e4 V! `
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't( g  n/ l( m0 ?! o9 B3 f, R
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!( B9 {4 J4 `; Q9 u8 u( X, u& [
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話$ e7 ?% i7 k% x8 ^
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,  W  M- j/ {2 }  h$ o7 q9 b1 ^
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
) E5 p5 b2 _% h你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.% W$ J& p6 X% d: M) D: @) \

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% t) {9 A1 p. Y! E7 I1 y上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
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发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
/ B4 m0 _: h9 S* o, e) g/ Y" |  `. s  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
  b% y- g2 I2 e6 s- W有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
* y6 q6 L" t) Q% ^这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了" c3 [2 M9 e9 n0 d- p, B$ V

( I2 o* Y) N: |, T8 |# \所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。+ C2 n) d$ \* ^+ H

" x% a( Y. O" P! T$ W8 Y社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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