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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞9 X( p# u* T1 I8 h
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
9 W5 [% B' d5 GClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
# s, @! M2 {" S( F# G+ g(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).$ d# l" a  Y; |; I: _. f; ]7 x
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
# S  a8 }8 ^. X& E0 |, X/ f上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
2 u+ Y" h( {6 T: \她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:. ]9 I0 O* p1 R2 l) q

5 m: m8 |+ q  a' L7 K, nAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
8 Z5 D3 ]9 g' s( f$ MShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
6 d7 R* t. r1 y/ A+ }but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,3 y( t" \# x5 A! \7 V0 y1 ^2 o  {
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.5 b: h# n1 `7 \5 ?' }) r+ n. \+ F
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
$ y0 v( p) V* X6 `" CHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
5 G9 v( ^  a- |& I( fif we demand He leave us alone?"
* U6 a- A0 w2 D: `/ t『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
$ H9 n- E( n9 T只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
/ n  v) j$ a' B. N/ v% v不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
" ~( K. ]& ~. x' O$ _上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。% Y$ m" y) _& h' ~: c+ o
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,4 |& H+ y  A1 y- Z
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』* {% R. P8 A9 g6 x1 ?

* s" \! F4 D7 ?6 a' s1 D1 NIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
$ ]* D' j7 {1 z' p3 [9 w# h/ zI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,5 ], ?# F+ l# S9 R" a, `/ W1 k, z
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our5 s' R$ Y4 Y* U" B
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in4 t; c. Y' q0 r! P5 Q" v
school...! o  D- l' Q8 [5 M, f& x$ r$ \
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
; f! b1 i  ^' ?; e5 band love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
. W  ~1 k' l. }7 Q' n看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
" P- j2 L- o) a我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
8 C$ z9 E; h1 I+ G(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,5 y4 I9 q9 U) p( U
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、7 E8 _2 U0 Z* q# l8 ]
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。, \8 Z' i6 f  b% Z2 I" D2 ]5 A

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
6 _! W, `& |$ {2 N7 hwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped4 i  n, q; w/ N4 k
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
7 Q" Z) i) s9 Zsuicide)
' w6 E' `0 j* ]8 O: JWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
6 `& [4 O4 M  m! U/ Z) v然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
5 A( t) k! g$ m我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
$ @. U# Z+ u, l3 U, v. \以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
8 ?8 f% T3 Q7 @" [5 E3 l+ o" C3 ~( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。2 M0 u; c8 |8 f" l: z

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" z* O4 [7 h; mThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
7 _0 x) u! M# t6 Q! N& N4 ?children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
1 _. m' S" {2 N' T8 e3 U' m/ Y3 w, Min this school better touch a student when they misbehave
$ `) q% v1 w- _( Q0 {4 Y! Rbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
- l5 }2 a+ x9 Y7 E. O3 F* I0 |and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference! \/ ~* t! @8 y6 O
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,( F7 ^1 i2 X4 c) Y
etc.). And we said OK.& e" i9 D/ h+ J  a
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
' I* s4 @) u0 d8 Y, d老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,7 o& }( x4 g3 l& G' ^6 d
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,% b$ V# N! ~( I! k3 k% |
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
9 G4 f) v; F; x( `5 a1 F, F# ~1 {而大家同意了。. ~+ k0 R* v$ f" p
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,: h" Y: T- b/ e& y3 J
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
; [) p6 X/ _6 T  U3 R0 D+ jThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
# a5 G% H+ F  `. x& y# k( rand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms0 c7 [1 v) }, N$ o. A; F
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,, ~  K! J2 h4 H3 N
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we1 ?# Q: ]" h* M& ]
said OK.
3 L7 H; L! g- g' e2 R然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
7 U( q1 E+ G4 \% X) Z( t# Y甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
. K4 M3 h- K/ ~9 M0 N然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,7 {. m! U1 g' G" T
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
3 H" E+ N( o6 l4 V5 v好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道) U$ V1 {( P; x# W7 p
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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0 x# @2 {1 Z9 AThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter6 C* L, `& J4 v/ ]! f
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,# H. p1 z: H" {" h
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
/ D# E2 D: w3 `/ q2 [) c2 Fdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
: V# ]  g  |/ u4 k9 Z然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,& b8 F' D5 o) i) P. I
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,; p( C$ V* t, v/ q' S3 C
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >8 c$ x: f8 z) k
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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& m2 Y( s- W, u( WThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
& U6 b2 h  V: e5 G5 c7 w8 Band call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
  [6 y( {+ a1 C* O* z$ y# n; D5 eof the female body. And we said OK.; j  N- Y, x1 ?9 K# d
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,+ Q& ^* N& A- S! u! V+ H9 T! n
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。, ]$ {# |) N+ [( o4 D6 J+ f. |; O

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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
7 x3 h! C5 a) c3 Q1 Wpublished pictures of nude children and then further again
1 A5 a9 {0 O8 p* @by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,6 ?' d5 f3 l# T' \# l- _/ ~
they're entitled to free speech.
2 d, I( |2 A7 ^' Q: J" ?- o" y0 V然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
# z  E  \" y* [甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
& K0 z& i3 l: l" v他們這樣做是言論自由。9 l$ I3 E" S; _8 ^

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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
& ?4 r! x: \0 ^' W* hthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
6 }# W9 K0 H: C/ x4 X, a) Mthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.% }% H" d9 o* L! z5 Q5 |
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
0 j* h8 G& E+ h2 t: R2 h2 K7 h8 Gnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
7 a9 a0 g  P" [7 [然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、9 y, f# B% H* W7 \1 y
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
# ]9 v, P. B: b謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:# x3 R$ J/ V- n) ^+ _5 T" C
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,; J( U4 p: O: e5 ]1 P6 I
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
6 d4 t, d" Y% F0 @0 Dto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
( I# w, r# H/ oif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
/ k$ d  l1 b3 m% A+ n0 \I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."4 p4 k2 A9 Z  b' S4 e
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
, D5 }. ]7 o. p為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
: V1 ?' y0 B# G  X1 _為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?& A0 h9 q$ B( S$ I/ i+ z" J
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。  B4 D0 C7 b# I
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。  c" h4 s% H4 E3 {
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
" H) Q2 G7 Q' \6 i1 s, ]why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
; _7 e: e4 }. P* n0 x" E4 dsay, but question what the Bible says.8 H' }, D& B  _5 u% I, u! v
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
! l9 L3 `: Y4 i, _2 m實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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0 ^% G/ C. ~( Q) E1 _1 z$ C; {' @: oFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like6 W/ K2 }% K! R/ h
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
% b$ ^: x( ?* l9 v  ], ipeople think twice about sharing.2 h2 V. `/ s: _
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;3 j5 j! z: c" H4 b
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
) B: Z: ?! J6 c' o  G人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。/ F" z- u- f8 V" ?
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely: C" n# @+ t$ g  V
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
% A3 U  J+ i) y  o% O3 W: E; J! Tin the school and workplace.7 M$ X1 B$ ^) M+ J8 A% I
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
; q1 Q! O' y4 ^& P% G; R* u3 F- o透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
) A* F6 W8 L5 y: ]9 W/ }: }而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。" n1 D$ N- H! E* M8 B; @

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Are you laughing?% x, j, R0 e8 G8 g! |
你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
3 H8 `, g; V, |+ V* f2 O$ n: zto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
* d) i) k% a! }1 Yor what they WILL think of you for sending it.  a7 p+ U6 v/ U" [0 K
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
' L' C/ ?# G0 R0 b7 ]: V0 @than what God thinks of us., J. v; v2 p, l7 V9 }& k9 g
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,0 X# K& k4 F3 P( R; ~. D& N9 Z
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,  h$ @% U' w' ~
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
) j% k3 N, v" A3 N5 J: r, p可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,' z5 _  }. h! D. ?
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。* x# _  n' ^& R. m0 @# u! x

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$ ]4 G7 L, l* x' }, i9 xPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...& f" Y8 u& z- g8 z5 Z- }
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't4 Y' w1 a& Y3 |+ |0 M' m/ c
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!. O' m2 H4 B4 a$ ?! A& `
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
. }+ W0 S( s: E9 V. i; B若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
: a. k0 Q7 J2 m, R但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
( [8 U! S  }: \3 s% P; L( ~你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.) y$ ~& G) ^' W# z2 S! }2 e( |: c4 _/ {
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
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发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
& J: u$ i' Q- P1 B  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
5 _$ T$ |9 q3 D有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。3 ]8 J, ?! H7 e6 z$ g3 D9 q
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了0 q5 W: W! b! y7 s6 S/ }

; g, Q/ _) W) Z0 c; ?' f3 V所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。4 _7 W; `7 _+ p1 c- N; B) c* a
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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