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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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3 f, h1 P7 ?- `% O5 i4 ]6 ^Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane1 m) Z% z7 V$ ^0 B7 q# k! Z2 m
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"% p" I9 f8 G. e: A
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).1 U. {) S9 Z' N# g2 z7 x
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
2 b" L2 X# n  ~  A0 f* Z上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
' q" B+ f  S, X她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.9 z: `2 w3 r: K; a" l7 M( u/ Y1 \( _
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
$ S& [) N$ W0 h1 K) i) ^but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,! u$ R4 j7 t4 u4 A( R5 [6 H5 m6 ?
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.; o  V, W; r7 q% ?. k3 o  w6 h7 B. H
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
4 @$ J& H5 O. n4 yHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
* C$ i/ k3 w7 oif we demand He leave us alone?"& R! f0 D5 C# W9 }9 R
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;8 {) y1 u3 W+ h: U  b) t
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,6 ?" v& J0 h0 z7 b* O/ A) ^
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。$ u' _! ]' w- n9 k4 {
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
3 V0 j0 |  _4 N1 \! m3 @我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
: L; X$ m( N. V( n, H) z又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.6 O  V9 A9 Y4 D' Y0 K) q( A. s; z
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
& T6 Z; c( [' a; iher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
- y. `. i: K& C8 d' s% O& C- p0 Eschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in. F- q2 z2 x4 c  `
school...4 d5 H" q; q4 {7 Z( D- p6 i$ X
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,' ]3 l- j/ ]3 {1 Q, O9 `
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.6 v: D/ o) b( }, K  z
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
0 h: o$ L9 \# f. R$ A" G我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士3 K. Y( @1 X- n( ?& d) Y' X
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,& {: N: }; N5 X
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
* \0 n! ~) ^  Y要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。; b) Y/ G+ w# X) J
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
) i, n$ R8 _, Z9 ]. k2 Pwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
. L4 c8 ~9 C/ S# R. d- _5 land we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed; s- r4 r- g) p. Z9 V1 {
suicide)
( n9 e) K; s1 ?We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK." X" f6 Z. o' _( y% W) J3 S  U
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,) L7 P! X! o2 ?( E! |1 j: ^7 o* i
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,4 I$ c) H; E3 g- |
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊8 U* W) s4 L! R, J% H& q: |$ C& X
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。# e5 A. x% U- V
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
5 v; k) E- d, d( D3 Schildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member# O# ^8 C- D; s( E
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave$ g- G9 t) G* J; [7 p
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
$ n7 n1 S7 k. ?4 J/ {8 Jand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference, ]! d: ?: U( o6 D& U6 C
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
' u+ H# q+ v! aetc.). And we said OK." ^: g# d3 G( h- X8 q
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
- B* w# K$ T- y) P老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
% f. Q6 ~. _+ Y7 S" \教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,% x2 u6 i6 ?* h# S/ u0 _
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
# V# T$ q  A- _  m- u9 P( a1 X0 ^而大家同意了。
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0 l( _- B& l' i- a. Z' R9 vThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
" l# C: e/ o+ b' Rand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
0 {3 J2 @+ t/ E2 uThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
5 y# R2 s5 m1 T1 {  {8 {1 ^5 _& Pand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms$ F: Y; w% F0 m0 T6 l4 {- `/ P0 ^
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,8 M5 J4 G3 v! c* s: _4 l" l2 k, ^
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
$ w: g" ?& S0 l( g: p5 B1 {, {9 t% b* gsaid OK.
) z# O4 G. l( `8 U然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
/ o& g$ c* C' h9 t- T7 _7 S/ @$ K) }8 A甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。" U1 P5 B9 z! y. i
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
3 A: r- C" S2 F) q! J他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
$ V2 e4 h9 F6 @0 t/ Y+ S好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道! W4 T* y# l; ~2 s: K0 v
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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9 I: Z9 E6 ?5 j/ V! Q2 ~Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter8 d. r8 w8 V( f, Y: N% P1 Y
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,+ t! c; T" P& i/ a
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
7 ]) e+ m, r) D7 {( ~does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.: }3 g9 t& k1 C. D, u* o- }
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
9 f+ P/ W' @7 J( I  f, }只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,+ u9 Z1 z: F4 u
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
; [$ D7 M4 K+ f% `7 V只要我有工作而且經濟看好。( j* t+ v% V$ m  S9 x( P
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
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of the female body. And we said OK.7 B( ]: C2 s/ g& S9 A: m. z- P8 s
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
0 M9 z' r2 e$ W* |稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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" Z  h4 O: J) A" T$ r6 f3 fAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and% ^9 W% G9 ]. q" H
published pictures of nude children and then further again
" j# h: f" v; j( b2 dby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
+ b1 R% e6 ?, Nthey're entitled to free speech.3 [" b. B# k) u4 t/ W
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,* }' F: v- f/ u% F
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
( y! x% y& k/ ?+ J. q+ e+ n( P8 w他們這樣做是言論自由。
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' ?+ z& O9 y# i, E8 t9 K0 qThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies2 M* U5 x0 k! W8 u
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
/ p. X* }1 a( D  d( ]that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.! e- |/ Q$ V# a) b5 V3 I
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
! U$ D% Z! u. Pnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead., z5 G6 m- }2 F* L/ L
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、; U+ V+ T9 i5 L
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、8 ^3 K/ i8 \4 z4 m( {
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:; |4 k3 o( U: j5 S& I* i& q
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。9 q0 e% m, o+ v0 ~9 }: T  V

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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
1 }7 l7 K& M* J' x1 gwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them2 e0 P" o; ~/ _$ [$ X
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
9 V! B+ B8 l7 x- T( F9 D, j) oif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
( s* _; o) J3 r: K# r) J7 JI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
; O" d4 N# @8 `$ X; X! p5 {0 z如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
8 w7 ^$ i1 W$ d/ P' G9 `為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?( c/ Q. q' u0 v8 n4 }# y: X
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?8 ~4 I+ T! M: f
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。6 Q% _& P7 P; H6 C& O% n
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。  s5 o6 j4 o1 R9 Q' a
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
1 y( G! u9 ]8 w& H/ ?why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers: f3 q+ V  ?) {+ U3 K5 _
say, but question what the Bible says.
; j3 ~  }) U5 D/ G實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
1 \' y0 a! b3 O+ u" e! U實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。; a& L7 h& M! }5 _/ |
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
+ }& K1 n- b0 b  [0 p9 k( Ewildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,0 d& b' [0 v' r
people think twice about sharing.
( k& P5 W2 S) W. u實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;2 b  ?& X# D3 F, g9 I( T- o. H
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,/ h; z' u) W! [9 a) [$ H
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。. [5 o1 d/ t2 y

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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
7 B7 \" `* o% z- m1 Lthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed+ [/ T: ^5 G5 {9 V1 U
in the school and workplace.
+ @4 C( Y# G0 I實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章& ~5 p7 e7 u2 }5 D" J; I
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;; b+ {" A* v9 V( \& ?9 J
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。, n9 U* `4 L0 M; L, F0 F- K

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Are you laughing?
3 E3 s  Q9 e: E9 r0 A: a/ M% f4 B你笑了嗎?% H7 p& ?4 U: T3 R  k! X; D0 Q
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it4 I, F' h1 \1 v' Z' k  H
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,1 Z5 i  a. Y$ N. @
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.. N% [  V/ C# C" @: u; v
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
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好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
2 f5 z* B, q9 ~9 Z% W因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,- Y7 w! h2 p- y. l9 `
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。+ Y8 B# }+ v( r! e$ u  \
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
1 c+ J2 E3 C# f$ u: S, s9 O) T9 d而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。( H+ s/ x( ^  w8 w
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. T5 x9 V" x% b# \! D6 X& GPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
) v% [- b  i8 @( @1 p9 B7 lno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
# z) `4 {: l6 b$ V$ n0 ~sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!5 f8 K7 D  J& y) H' `2 \9 K# K
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話1 ~8 w6 ~$ J# ~% ^% R8 o1 [8 ?
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,. c; |# N( M1 f# w
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
( o) A, K; K9 v5 k* c8 {5 f你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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: e$ m0 r2 w) s上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。. N! O* l, Y* p  u/ E
  May God bless you!
大型搬家
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
. t: K3 E% B) f0 {: n有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
8 ^" o3 @- b) P3 i4 u& G这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了8 l. d) ^) g) o1 s6 N5 y  f/ ]- ^

: D2 \4 o1 D; z" _1 v) H* _所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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9 k# d7 K$ q, D9 e" z0 W5 R社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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