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请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

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发表于 2011-10-3 10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗?从老云的帖子里面看时这样的,但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢?2 I5 J% d/ _; O# ?" b

2 S" @4 R, ]& W% f2 ?( Y. t另外,有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么?肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧?* u& b) y3 m# Z* e( f- O# Q

6 B8 S8 c2 y1 w$ W2 K" dgoogle上找了半天无解,所以上来请教。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:06 | 显示全部楼层
I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.* A5 b1 k) r2 w( K+ |6 n
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Ha Ling Peak

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2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta. [! V. n  B& _9 ]+ i
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                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                . r3 Q( y: h% L  |
                                       
) [% j- e% j. \$ l4 x                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; 7 O- A3 n8 q6 h; E
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Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates
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                                                                                                Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore- q* [# R  k& H- I) z8 ~7 }' q
                                       
3 D( S8 ~. N: {2 A                                                                        Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=].9 ?4 k/ w  P% B, w8 i
This mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year.
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However this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10.
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[url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                                4 F1 O4 l9 f% N' E  ~; h1 t
Scrambling Routes                                       
An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2011-10-3 10:14 编辑 # s: y, Y4 S5 ~% w
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谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
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It is said to be the best trail in Canada.
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kingsnake 于 2011-10-3 11:32 编辑 6 }7 d& Q! P  W1 D

# {: [- `6 t0 V' h. I, R- Y這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
# h( `1 m' z  I# y4 H4 W+ s7 f之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。) Z  M& M$ g( d
之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.$ y$ n0 G. i1 v: X4 w0 H
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29

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除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外,还有其他来源吗?" ]6 ~0 k3 U. m! c% j7 [7 _
那么,Ha ling 姓林名海?
, z8 r- {$ n* X5 x, k* R* l中文翻译成叫林海峰,海林峰,哈灵峰?2 B( W/ v) v7 l, K! _

$ q8 ^8 E6 H+ e8 {另外广东话把lin读成ling,hai读成ha?: N5 h$ o7 {" J4 ]! H& T/ a

" k+ [' ~$ U* A% C2 J: ^多谢!
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 放风儿 于 2011-10-3 11:42 编辑 " G, x8 U/ D& d: ]( l: l: x1 X3 O4 d! e
谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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0 h! U7 v2 }- b% Q9 ~- o7 E2 D实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak,但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi,所以知道此山不算难。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
凌海吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。
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. I6 Z, {, X3 I入门级更好了,
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-10-3 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!: J7 d2 \2 O$ _" s' O4 Z: V' p+ L. I$ m

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5 C3 V1 n% F! S3 jHa Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的,还有海莲峰的,这就差得比较远。我不会广东话,所以只好猜测这个Ha,其实是姓“夏”,Ling,可能就是“岭”,或者“灵”“陵”“翎”,这个就无从判断了。) t  D$ ^" q6 K( k, A, Z
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如果一定要翻,我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”,听着比较顺口。/ y$ C0 g) H) R- L- W

9 K1 ^: s  D% S  c9 w9 Z你这个问题,或者马健威会有标准答案吧!呵呵。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-4 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!: D: N5 y" i& y% s4 }* z
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他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。
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; |/ m2 o" O6 NHa Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...7 d0 ^' h5 @7 k5 y& r9 H5 L. O
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22
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謝謝,有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了,只是好奇而已。# F  u! Y& R2 D- e% t5 _: Y

4 o% }$ f; A- b6 E! G在找到真名之前,先叫他夏靈吧。
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