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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. : L3 m) K# n; r  B, {  Z0 H
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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/ @1 Q: d, U2 w& j' r4 ^"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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1 q9 t) M) y  a5 u5 _" v" ANow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.8 ]) p  H0 M7 R- D. Z" w
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year., ]0 K# z: Z- l, Q9 X8 d6 }

& z; U9 G& b% N) p: zMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. % \& f& i/ n/ T% b6 [

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,$ F* X4 I9 D1 k4 A# w: t7 r

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。' z( f* `+ a" g8 T
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。1 r, P2 t" E9 g: E; r
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
* h+ m$ Q, f( k. y/ }跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
9 e) D' P2 ~. e+ n* D3 }嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton8 J2 j4 u$ k; F* J2 n
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
2 f2 @( f" |2 q0 h5 S( Q* X2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
# W+ g+ G! {) k3 L% Q! ?7 x/ m. `formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided7 ^! I3 P* z: e
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,: f1 Y; q3 {. c; `9 F3 I! L) A. d
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and# `9 u- C& G4 r' T
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
/ m" h" ^4 q$ |( S* k2 Jpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
) H7 ~! w6 M2 S2 s* {7 `) H; [precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
9 S( C; u7 i: g: O) ?: c& Gto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year. F1 r/ a" q3 h1 U" V8 d
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this' y$ A% G# B  e
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,, J0 x* J* L& |- G9 M
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%7 v$ w6 h" f" [' t# I; T2 ^
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
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1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a: S4 R% S: ]- z$ D: m
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in2 S. j" O0 g- ~7 e; I
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747# t) ^/ a2 x; `! z
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest1 z! M6 }, b3 c) c* S
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s" [( @; A+ ]+ ?
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.& k2 v- X7 T2 Y" v
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale1 c( T2 X" B8 |) \
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable./ m9 O3 S' A- Z
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove' @1 @7 x* B9 N, c8 I) A
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’- X, o# t- ]( j% F; n% v' a" Q
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' A! w* N' b2 C3 a% ]# v
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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